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Re: New farm bill would condemn pigs to a lifetime in gestation crates

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Post by block_dagger »

sosodev wrote: post #58
Havoc wrote: post #22

The sooner we get to true lab grown meat the better Meat is nice but would be better if we can skip the whole suffering thing

This is a false dichotomy. The choice is not lab grown or suffering. Farmed animals could live happy, healthy lives and then be culled in a humane way. The problem is that it costs slightly more and our society is more concerned with cost than animal suffering.

Any kind of domination of one species over another raises serious ethical questions. Avoiding suffering on the dominated side is nearly impossible.

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Post by dehrmann »

Havoc wrote: post #22

The sooner we get to true lab grown meat the better Meat is nice but would be better if we can skip the whole suffering thing

I actually had some this weekend.

If you support this, visit one of the handful of restaurants selling it to show interest and support the companies. The salmon I had was ready for prime time in the right context, and if you didn't know, you probably wouldn't have noticed.

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Post by Ancapistani »

hansbo wrote: post #2

Gestation crates are up there among the most immoral things created by man.

In their current implementation, yeah, they’re pretty bad.

There is a need for something like it, though. A sow will absolutely lay down on her piglets and suffocate them.

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Post by pmarreck »

Havoc wrote: post #22

The sooner we get to true lab grown meat the better Meat is nice but would be better if we can skip the whole suffering thing

In nature, animals are routinely torn apart and devoured while still breathing.

In a proper rending facility, a captive bolt pneumatic/hydraulic pistol punctures their skull and sends a shockwave through their brains, killing them like Tony in the last scene of the Sopranos.

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Post by giraffe_lady »

varispeed wrote: post #34
giraffe_lady wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can’t find anything worthwhile here what makes you think you’ll find it out there?

Not saying it is not worthwhile. As nature equipped us with feelings to make existence more pleasant. Enjoy the brief blip of consciousness.

I am thanks.

Re: New farm bill would condemn pigs to a lifetime in gestation crates

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Post by dehrmann »

pmarreck wrote: post #56
globular-toast wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even nice. People ate meat because fresh fruit and vegetables weren't available all year round or even at all. All good food has plants to make it taste nice. You can easily just skip the meat and go straight for the flavour.

The Alaskan word for "vegetables" is literally "boring food"

In Swedish, it's "green things."

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Post by enaaem »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #23
bananalychee wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ractopamine is authorized in Canada per the article you linked.

Let's not let that pesky detail get in the way of the USA bad narrative he has going.

Still banned China, Russia and the EU...
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