The problem with using unemployment as a metric is hiring is driving by perception. You're making an educated guess as to how many people you need in the future. Anthropic can cause layoffs through pure marketing. People were crediting an Anthropic statement in causing a drop in IBM's stock value, which may genuinely lead to layoffs: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ibm-stock-plunges-ai-threat-1... We'll probably have…
Between 2004 and 2008 I did many things in computing as a company that offered my services, one of these was information gathering automation. It almost never immediately lead to decreases in employment. The systems had a to be in place for a while, people had to get used to them, people had to stop making common mistakes with them. Then the 2008 crash happened and those people were gone in a blink of an eye and neve…
Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
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Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Build a new feature. If you aren't bogged down in bureaucracy it will happen much faster.
Most of these are new features, but then they have to integrate with the existing software so it's not really greenfield. (Not to mention that our clients aren't getting any faster at approving new features, either.)
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not necessarily a result of AI, you also have to consider the broader economic environment. I mean, it was also difficult to get a job as a graduate in 2008, whereas it's typically been easier to get a job when credit is cheap.
It sure was, but as far as I'm aware, 2026 isn't in the middle of a generation-scale economic collapse. (And if it is, what is the cause?)
[1] https://www.npr.org/2026/02/12/nx-s1-5711455/revised-labor-d...
[2] https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/12/18/expect-more-of-...
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems unlikely. My company is in competition with a number of other startups. If AI removes one of my co-workers, our competitors will keep the co-worker and out-compete us.
There's definitely tone deaf statements from managers/leaders like "AI will allow us to do more with less headcount!" As if the end worker is supposed to be excited about that, knuckleheads, lol.
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
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It is not going to reduce your workload. It is going to remove one of your co-workers.
This seems unlikely. My company is in competition with a number of other startups. If AI removes one of my co-workers, our competitors will keep the co-worker and out-compete us.
This assumes that the companies' business growth is a function of the amount of code written, but that would not make much sense for a software company.
Many companies (including mine) are building our product with an engineering team 1/4 the size of what would have been required a few years ago. The whole idea is that we can build the machine to scale our business with far fewer workers.
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of these are new features, but then they have to integrate with the existing software so it's not really greenfield. (Not to mention that our clients aren't getting any faster at approving new features, either.)
Did you train a self-hosted/open source LLM on your existing software and documentation? That should make it far more useful. It's not claude code, but some of those models are 80% there. In 6 months they'll be today's claude code.
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not going to reduce your workload. It is going to remove one of your co-workers.
In a bear market in a bloated company, maybe. We’re still actively hiring at my startup, even with going all-in on AI across the company. My PM is currently shipping major features (with my review) faster and with higher-quality code than any engineer did last year.
Then any company that was staffed at levels needed prior to the arrival of current-level LLM coding assistants is bloated.
If the company was person-hour starved before, a significant amount of that demand is being satisfied by LLMs now.
It all depends on where the company is in the arc of its technology and business development, and where it was when powerful coding agents became viable.
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#78Also, it seems to me the concept of "observed exposure" is analogous to OpenAI's concept of "capability overhang" - https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/openai-ending-the-capability-over...
I think the underlying reason is simply because companies are "shaped wrong" to absorb AI fully. I always harp on how there's a learning curve (and significant self-adaptation) to really use AI well. Companies face the same challenge.
Let's focus on software. By many estimates code-related activities are only 20 - 60%, maybe even as low as 11%, of software engineers' time (e.g. https://medium.com/@vikpoca/developers-spend-only-11-of-thei...) But consider where the rest of the time goes. Largely coordination overhead. Meetings etc. drain a lot of time (and more the more senior you get), and those are mostly getting a bunch of people across the company along the dependency web to align on technical directions and roadmaps.
I call this "Conway Overhead."
This is inevitable because the only way to scale cognitive work was to distribute it across a lot of people with narrow, specialized knowledge and domain ownership. It's effectively the overhead of distributed systems applied to organizations. Hence each team owned a couple of products / services / platforms / projects, with each member working on an even smaller part of it at a time. Coordination happened along the heirarchicy of the org chart because that is most efficient.
Now imagine, a single AI-assisted person competently owns everything a team used to own.
Suddenly the team at the leaf layer is reduced to 1 from about... 5? This instantly gets rid of a lot of overhead like daily standups, regular 1:1s and intra-team blockers. And inter-team coordination is reduced to a couple of devs hashing it out over Slack instead of meetings and tickets and timelines and backlog grooming and blockers.
So not only has the speed of coding increased, the amount of time spent coding has also gone up. The acceleration is super-linear.
But, this headcount reduction ripples up the org tree. This means the middle management layers, and the total headcount, are thinned out by the same factor that the bottom-most layer is!
And this focused only on the engineering aspect. Imagine the same dynamic playing out across departments when all kinds of adjacent roles are rolled up into the same person: product, design, reliability...
These are radical changes to workflows and organizations. However, at this stage we're simply shoe-horning AI into the old, now-obsolete ticket-driven way of doing things.
So of course AI has a "capability overhang" and is going to take time to have broad impact... but when it does, it's not going to be pretty.
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#79This is a pretty interesting report. The TL;DR is that there is little measurable impact (and I'd personally add "yet"). To quote: "We find no systematic increase in unemployment for highly exposed workers since late 2022, though we find suggestive evidence that hiring of younger workers has slowed in exposed occupations" My belief based on personal experience is that in software engineering it wasn't until November/…
Gemini 3 and Opus 4.6 were the "woah, they're actually useful now!" moment for me.
I keep saying to colleagues that it's like a rising tide. Initially the AIs were lapping around our ankles, now the level of capability is at waist height.
Many people have commented that 50% of developers think AI-generated code is "Great!" and 50% think its trash. That's a sign that AI code quality is that of the median developer. This will likely improve to 60%-40%, then 70%-30%, etc...
Re: Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not going to reduce your workload. It is going to remove one of your co-workers.
In a bear market in a bloated company, maybe. We’re still actively hiring at my startup, even with going all-in on AI across the company. My PM is currently shipping major features (with my review) faster and with higher-quality code than any engineer did last year.
That's... not a good look for your engineers?