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BMW Group to deploy humanoid robots in production in Germany for the first time

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Re: BMW Group to deploy humanoid robots in production in Germany for the first time

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Whenever I hear german companies mention digitalisation, I get reminded that they still use pen and pencil in production environments to log data, pass those sheets to secreteries who enter the data into legacy systems so data analysts can enter it into another system that then has an integration with SAP. Data from SAP then flows onwards to some buzzword filled Azure product that costs a few million a month from whi…

I've seen worse. For 2 years I received the results weekly, that I didn't ask for, of a $1m a year burn reporting stack. This was launched during a massive back patting ceremony like something out of Severance. So one day I stared at it randomly and noticed that the pie chart percentages on one thing didn't even add up to 100. Looked back at history and it turned out this had been the case since day one. Spent a day…

It's always funny when HN users comment that there are no more opportunities for startups and it's too hard to compete against large, wealthy corporations. The reality is that most of them are so badly managed that competing against them is easy if you're actually competent.

Re: BMW Group to deploy humanoid robots in production in Germany for the first time

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Whenever I hear german companies mention digitalisation, I get reminded that they still use pen and pencil in production environments to log data, pass those sheets to secreteries who enter the data into legacy systems so data analysts can enter it into another system that then has an integration with SAP. Data from SAP then flows onwards to some buzzword filled Azure product that costs a few million a month from whi…

I've seen worse. For 2 years I received the results weekly, that I didn't ask for, of a $1m a year burn reporting stack. This was launched during a massive back patting ceremony like something out of Severance. So one day I stared at it randomly and noticed that the pie chart percentages on one thing didn't even add up to 100. Looked back at history and it turned out this had been the case since day one. Spent a day…

Someone intentionally doesn't want those numbers seen or applied.

Re: BMW Group to deploy humanoid robots in production in Germany for the first time

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Whenever I hear german companies mention digitalisation, I get reminded that they still use pen and pencil in production environments to log data, pass those sheets to secreteries who enter the data into legacy systems so data analysts can enter it into another system that then has an integration with SAP. Data from SAP then flows onwards to some buzzword filled Azure product that costs a few million a month from whi…

I used to work for the US side of a German multinational (one of the largest in the world) and discovered the same thing when it came to software. The German side always had slick presentations (they always had good visual marketing) and impressive claims, but whenever I tried to work with their products, I always found the claims overstated and that they hadn't really executed deeply. This despite my German counterp…

I think Germany got infected by the shareholder value and privatization virus but doesn't really understand it.

Re: BMW Group to deploy humanoid robots in production in Germany for the first time

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They will deploy robots , but their infotainment system is crap. Entire pricing model is to sell extra volume in engine for $10k on each measurable step , even though electric cars has a solved performance that is only limited by tires. Not to mention their gas cars are way more complex vs electric. Sure that will save bmw .

Re: BMW Group to deploy humanoid robots in production in Germany for the first time

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My prediction is that by the time humanoid robots actually make it to the factory floor, they'll be pretty un-humanoid. 90% of car manufacturing is done by oldschool industrial robots, and I've had people point out that heavy use of industrial robots are basically unique to the car industry. You might see a robot arm here and there in other industries, but it's somewhat rare, usually its all purpose-built machines or…

You reminded me of the hilarious SV pizza making robot startup which has its own robot arm. In this video you see the unnecessary robot arm move the pizza to the oven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN45bTsBUW8 For contrast a How it is Made video of frozen pizzas being created at dozens (hundreds?) per minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UrSIOtv8a0

The difference is they can be put into environments that do not allow for purpose robots. I don't think it is a bad idea that spaces are still made for humans for when something goes wrong. A frozen pizza factory is trying to solve and sell something different.

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It's not how it works. You suppose to contract a consulting company that contracts some offshore company to connect you to SAP.

I wonder if it’s cheaper to just have an AI write the parts of SAP you actually need.

if the AI is a certified SAP consultant, sure. But then it would probably cost you $20K/month in subscription.

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This describes large companies everywhere I encountered oil wells essentially controlled by post-it notes passed around an office.

Maybe they found the PostIt notes worked better than whatever software they tried.

Many such cases

Re: BMW Group to deploy humanoid robots in production in Germany for the first time

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I used to work for the US side of a German multinational (one of the largest in the world) and discovered the same thing when it came to software. The German side always had slick presentations (they always had good visual marketing) and impressive claims, but whenever I tried to work with their products, I always found the claims overstated and that they hadn't really executed deeply. This despite my German counterp…

I think Germany got infected by the shareholder value and privatization virus but doesn't really understand it.

Whats funny is when its privatized by publicly traded companies it becomes this weird nationalized-kinda but not really thing that turns the economy into a bifercated class of first class citizens and second class citizens.
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