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Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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Google gets a 0% cut on Fortnite purchases in this new model.

That is false. Google gets a 20% cut instead of 30%, because the headline is completely wrong.

Epic will not sell things as a Google Play IAP and will use their own system instead.

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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I believe the fee is only 20% if you use a third party billing system. If one uses Google to process the payments the fee would be 25% (20% service fee + 5% billing fee) [1]. [1] https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/03/a-new-era-...

Is the Google billing system that good or easy? 5% sounds outrageous, but I guess if they make it 1-click easy, will scoop up everyone who is not big enough to work with a real payment processor. I guess the question, what does an Amazon, Spotify, Uber, etc pay on the platform vs the 99% of businesses which are not a household name.

Aren't credit cards like 3.5% if you don't have a deal with them? 5% doesn't seem so bad. I've heard of 2% before

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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I'm hardly a fan of Epic, but considering inflation and rising supply chain costs, a price that remains flat may be a price that would have otherwise risen. They might also direct the money towards funding more exclusives. Epic's funding has enabled some games to be made that wouldn't have been otherwise, or that wouldn't have been as full featured without that up-front cash. They sell gambling to children via lootbo…

Sure but it's not just Epic. I've seen other services, ranging from Netflix to Spotify increase subscription prices. I don't disagree with your point about inflation, but we also can't really run the counterfactual, and I'm personally not inclined to give the benefit of the doubt here. As an aside we generally have some level of inflation and so while this argument may have been more convincing during a period of rap…

Is it not in Apple's best interest to create a local optima around their otherwise harmful practices?

Design wise, they make some tradeoffs that somewhat benefit consumers so they get advocates

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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The majority of which is going directly to Visa, Amex, Mastercard.

Nah, credit card fees are like 1.5 to 3.5%.

Country dependent, in the EU there is a legal cap of 0.2% for debit and 0.3% for credit card transactions.

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Is the Google billing system that good or easy? 5% sounds outrageous, but I guess if they make it 1-click easy, will scoop up everyone who is not big enough to work with a real payment processor. I guess the question, what does an Amazon, Spotify, Uber, etc pay on the platform vs the 99% of businesses which are not a household name.

Aren't credit cards like 3.5% if you don't have a deal with them? 5% doesn't seem so bad. I've heard of 2% before

Charging double the competition seems pretty bad to me.

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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> Rather than take its standard 30 percent cut of in-app purchases through the Play Store, Google is lowering its cut to 20 percent > Third-party app stores will be able to apply to the company's new "Registered App Stores" program to see if they meet "certain quality and safety benchmarks." > users will still be able to sideload alternative app stores that aren't part of the program I'll wait to hear how the F-Droid…

Sideload probably means use adb. It's like they're avoiding using the tool name for some reason.

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Sideloading without automatic updates is not very useful

That's one of the arguments for sideloading. I don't want to use your new liquid ass design.

    Liquod ass design
This made me laugh. I agree that's a plus! Auto updates are mostly bad. Look at the state of extensions on vscode. The permissions combined with silent updates is scary

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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I believe the fee is only 20% if you use a third party billing system. If one uses Google to process the payments the fee would be 25% (20% service fee + 5% billing fee) [1]. [1] https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/03/a-new-era-...

Is the Google billing system that good or easy? 5% sounds outrageous, but I guess if they make it 1-click easy, will scoop up everyone who is not big enough to work with a real payment processor. I guess the question, what does an Amazon, Spotify, Uber, etc pay on the platform vs the 99% of businesses which are not a household name.

For card payments sure, but if you buy with play store gift cards bought from a third party retailer, I don't think Google is making much if anything out of that.
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