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An interactive map of Flock Cams

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Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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Coincidentally, a nearby county has just announced that they have begun installing new Flock cameras [0]. Their stated reason is: "Along with the cameras being used to reduce crime, the sheriff’s office said they may also be used for public safety concerns, including AMBER Alerts and Silver Alerts." The cameras are good when we're all on the happy path, but as soon as a bad actor gets involved, all of that surveillan…

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Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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This is a quite scary map. They are all over my local area. It may technically be possible to route a drive around them, but if you take the most convenient path between any two points at least one camera will spot you. I'd have to leave my neighborhood through back roads and enter local shopping areas through sidestreets. This data shouldn't even be collected in the first place, let alone consolidated into a nationa…

>> This is a quite scary map. It can be. FLOCK data was used to put Bryan Kohberger at the scene along with other people's security camera's. Cops regularly use FLOCK camera's to get hits for criminals that have warrants for violent crime. I can see why people are ok with them when they're used to get criminals off the streets. However, I've seen multiple times where cops initiate a felony stop (where people are pull…

There have been numerous instances where cops used it to stalk exes, etc. If it isn't already, it will be used to stalk a blacklist of dissidents. It will continue to happen as long as the system exists.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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>> This is a quite scary map. It can be. FLOCK data was used to put Bryan Kohberger at the scene along with other people's security camera's. Cops regularly use FLOCK camera's to get hits for criminals that have warrants for violent crime. I can see why people are ok with them when they're used to get criminals off the streets. However, I've seen multiple times where cops initiate a felony stop (where people are pull…

Do you have a source to your Bryan claim? If you look at the map, there are zero flock cameras reported in that region. None in Moscow Idaho where the murder happened, none in Pullman where he lived, and none showed between the locations.

There's a disclaimer when you first open the page that the map is incomplete and that users need to submit the data. It's possible that data hasn't been submitted/parsed yet

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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If you know where some of them are, you can add the data yourself: https://mapcomplete.org/surveillance

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Enforcement is one way to reduce crime. Another way is to reduce poverty. Which will we choose? One road leads to South Africa. The other, Denmark.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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Coincidentally, a nearby county has just announced that they have begun installing new Flock cameras [0]. Their stated reason is: "Along with the cameras being used to reduce crime, the sheriff’s office said they may also be used for public safety concerns, including AMBER Alerts and Silver Alerts." The cameras are good when we're all on the happy path, but as soon as a bad actor gets involved, all of that surveillan…

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> I just don't understand the hate against these plate capture cams specifically.

Because the scope of information they gather is much larger than most law enforcement technologies.

> Law enforcement needs reform for sure

And the current protections are woefully inadequate.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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So, our city clearly has other cameras but they are from a different vendor (and don't show up on the map). I wonder how good/bad the other players in the industry are. Flock gets the press, is that just letting someone worse quietly fill in the gaps?

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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Coincidentally, a nearby county has just announced that they have begun installing new Flock cameras [0]. Their stated reason is: "Along with the cameras being used to reduce crime, the sheriff’s office said they may also be used for public safety concerns, including AMBER Alerts and Silver Alerts." The cameras are good when we're all on the happy path, but as soon as a bad actor gets involved, all of that surveillan…

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I don't understand why you felt you needed to create a throwaway for that comment

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a source to your Bryan claim? If you look at the map, there are zero flock cameras reported in that region. None in Moscow Idaho where the murder happened, none in Pullman where he lived, and none showed between the locations.

There's a disclaimer when you first open the page that the map is incomplete and that users need to submit the data. It's possible that data hasn't been submitted/parsed yet

It's possible, but I can't find a corroborating news report, and it's the first I've heard this claim made about that case.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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The only flock cameras indicated in my town are the canonical Home Depot arrangement. I'm pretty sure it's part of their standard operating procedures at this point. The effect these have had on the in store experience (at my location) is the primary thing that has me interested in limited deployments. Shopping at HD prior to the ALPRs was a horrible time. I think they finally caught the guy who was stealing the litt…

And to think, all it cost was a significant loss of privacy nationwide
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