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He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by pavel_lishin »

general1465 wrote: post #52
pavel_lishin wrote: post #10

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Just ask him to show you his bank accounts / unrestricted access to phone / camera in bedroom. It is always funny to see these people bend into pretzels trying to justify why you should not see how much money is on their bank accounts while you are just repeating their own mantra that if they did not do anything illegal, why they are worried about it?

The easy counter-argument to this, which Mr. Stanks alludes to, is that there's a difference between giving everyone data, and giving law enforcement data.

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by RickJWagner »

cholantesh wrote: post #69
RickJWagner wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The last article you opined on with this really bizarre line of reasoning was written by a journalist and published in an outlet who have been critiquing all those administrations. You chose to steer the discussion toward political affiliation. So for you, torturing children for 'crimes' of their parents is much less prescient morally than who raises the complaint.

I don’t understand your point.

The articles main thrust is that prior administrations gathered up all kinds of immigrants for deportation, not just violent criminals. ( BTW, current deportations include over 10% convicted violent criminals ). What’s the tie to torturing children?

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by bdangubic »

Ancapistani wrote: post #62
bdangubic wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the both sides does not hold water … imagine if Kamala was elected President and did 0.1% of the shit that was done in the last 14 months - like just imagine if she sent military to places where we have actual crime like Houston TX … the country would be literally burning right now. so “both sides” is very played argument I would stay away from

It absolutely does hold water - I've been sounding the alarm about Flock long before Trump took office. It took years to build out that network, it didn't happen overnight.

I apologize if my comment was not clear - I am not saying that both political parties are not same shit when it comes to surveillance and shit like that. but here on HN in particular, this "both sides" argument is being applied loosely to justify every imaginable thing that is making America into a country our parents have been scaring us off - every day we are becoming more like the countries and systems we have been fighting hard against. the "Obama was deporting..." absolutely cannot compare to "Trump sending military to always Democratic-led cities and in the process murdering in cold blood Americans on the streets of American cities" and yet you'll read over and over comments like OP that go "oh well, it is both sides" - which is why I gave example of Kamala sending US military to Texas (this would be fun, I am guessing some Hollywood liberal writer/director will eventually make (what could be an amazing) movie about this scenario

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by ASalazarMX »

GarnetFloride wrote: post #61

Had an amateur radio friend tell me about a time he found something transmitting interference that looked like a pole mounted transformer but it was upside down and not connected to anything. He reported it to the FCC and it vanished in a couple of days.

Isn't this the expected outcome when someone reports a device that interferes with communications? They find the owner and the device is fixed or removed.

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by RickJWagner »

bdangubic wrote: post #73
Ancapistani wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely does hold water - I've been sounding the alarm about Flock long before Trump took office. It took years to build out that network, it didn't happen overnight.

I apologize if my comment was not clear - I am not saying that both political parties are not same shit when it comes to surveillance and shit like that. but here on HN in particular, this "both sides" argument is being applied loosely to justify every imaginable thing that is making America into a country our parents have been scaring us off - every day we are becoming more like the countries and systems we have bee…

That’s just not grounded.

ICE absolutely goes to Republicans led cities.

Per Google: “ The Dallas ICE Field Office is experiencing a sharp increase in enforcement, with over 12,000 arrests between January and October 2025, marking over 100% growth and the second-highest volume nationwide.”

Also per Google: “ Mesa is the only municipality in the state with a contract agreement with ICE. We gladly welcome ICE into Mesa.”

Again, for Bakersfield: “ Based on recent reports, Bakersfield and Kern County are currently major hubs for U.S. immigration enforcement, with high levels of activity from both U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Border Patrol. ”

I quit looking after that one.

The ‘murder’ comment is false as well, of course. Hyperbole doesn’t help discussions of this type.

Can you somehow justify what you wrote?

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by solomonb »

don-code wrote: post #28
otikik wrote: post #24

Free trailer

I'm sort of curious where the law stands on this (I am not a lawyer). Since it has a license plate on it, it in theory displays some ownership info. Is that enough for me to say, "it's clearly not mine now"? If it didn't, does that give me any right to take something off a public roadway? Obviously, I know that the letter of the law, and what actually will be enforced, are two different things. Taking something that…

I think its the same as stealing a bike or a car parked on the street. I don't know the subtleties but I don't think you can presume something is abandoned merely for being left on the street?

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by nielsbot »

defrost wrote: post #66
nielsbot wrote: post #65

> “If you’re not doing anything illegal, why worry about it?” said long-time Jacumba resident Allen Stanks, 70. I wonder if Mr Stanks has curtains on his windows… After all, if you’ve got nothing to hide…

Let's suppose Mr Stanks is one of those rare but not altogether uncommon birds that strides out every morning, stark naked, to organically water his hydrangeas. And..? Mr Stanks curtains isn't the greatest argument or observation here.

We don't need to cater our argument to outliers

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by bdangubic »

RickJWagner wrote: post #75
bdangubic wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I apologize if my comment was not clear - I am not saying that both political parties are not same shit when it comes to surveillance and shit like that. but here on HN in particular, this "both sides" argument is being applied loosely to justify every imaginable thing that is making America into a country our parents have been scaring us off - every day we are becoming more like the countries and systems we have bee…

That’s just not grounded. ICE absolutely goes to Republicans led cities. Per Google: “ The Dallas ICE Field Office is experiencing a sharp increase in enforcement, with over 12,000 arrests between January and October 2025, marking over 100% growth and the second-highest volume nationwide.” Also per Google: “ Mesa is the only municipality in the state with a contract agreement with ICE. We gladly welcome ICE into Mesa…

didn’t think I have to but here it is:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/man-shot-and-killed-by-f...

and comparing minnesota etc to Dallas and Mesa is… something else but here we are…

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Post by RickJWagner »

bdangubic wrote: post #78
RickJWagner wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s just not grounded. ICE absolutely goes to Republicans led cities. Per Google: “ The Dallas ICE Field Office is experiencing a sharp increase in enforcement, with over 12,000 arrests between January and October 2025, marking over 100% growth and the second-highest volume nationwide.” Also per Google: “ Mesa is the only municipality in the state with a contract agreement with ICE. We gladly welcome ICE into Mesa…

didn’t think I have to but here it is: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/man-shot-and-killed-by-f... and comparing minnesota etc to Dallas and Mesa is… something else but here we are…

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Post by bdangubic »

RickJWagner wrote: post #79
bdangubic wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

didn’t think I have to but here it is: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/man-shot-and-killed-by-f... and comparing minnesota etc to Dallas and Mesa is… something else but here we are…

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> Nobody has been charged with murder

thats exactly the Gestapo shit we are dealing with. It was in fact a murder, the fact that no one was charged is what is becoming of our country

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