Sure, but have you heard the Eurovision Song contest entry about the web: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc9quuVYZF4
I was expecting some sort of futuristic electronic song, Daft Punk inspired, a bit of synthesizer... not this!
First Website (1992)
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
In 1993, you could refresh the home page of Netscape (Mosaic) every day and it would mention new sites that had been added. That became unmanageable quickly, which is when two dudes from Stanford started a directory.
I belive that an early beowser, possibly Mosaic, had an edit button. Think of that and the fundamental change of internet philosophy it implies!
Yeah, and the original HTTP had PUT and DELETE methods.
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#73It’s impressive how quickly the WWW became mainstream, given how few people had internet access back then. Bitcoin is now 16 years old but compared to the WWW in 2008 is hardly used on a daily basis.
It's not that WWW was quick, it's that Bitcoin is useless.
For agent to agent payments, Bitcoin/Ethereum could be quite useful now, as traditional payment protocols and banks are not likely to provide decent APIs any time soon.
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#75how did we go from this to nextjs?
There's a difference between document-based web sites like this one and web applications. The potential for web applications has mostly emerged as a side effect of the introduction of JavaScript. Back then, JavaScript was supposed to only add minor enhancements to web sites.
Well... Right here on the the very first website Tim Berners-Lee talks about how to build interactive web applications (here called "gateways"), albeit server-side rather than client-side:
https://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/FAQ/Server.html
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#761992 seems a bit late. Wasn't this first website put online on 20 December 1990?
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
In 1993, you could refresh the home page of Netscape (Mosaic) every day and it would mention new sites that had been added. That became unmanageable quickly, which is when two dudes from Stanford started a directory.
I belive that an early beowser, possibly Mosaic, had an edit button. Think of that and the fundamental change of internet philosophy it implies!
Just yesterday, this blew my mind: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47096599
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#78The sad part is, how infinitely more functional these simple, static HTML documents are, compared to much of the shit that floods the "modern" web. Ofc these pages cannot replace SPAs. That's not the point. The point is: Much of the web isn't SPAs. And much of what is SPAs shouldn't be SPAs. Much of the web is displaying static, or semi-static information. Hell, much of the web is still text. But somehow, the world a…
Some of the stuff we have been adding since then is GOOD though. Some examples: We now have to accommodate all types of user agents, and we do that very well. We now have complex navigation menus that cannot be accessible without JavaScript, and we do that very well. Our image elements can now have lots of attributes that add a bit of weight but improve the experience a lot. Etc. Also, things are improving/self-corre…
> We now have to accommodate all types of user agents, and we do that very well.
Simple websites don't even care about the UA.
> We now have complex navigation menus that cannot be accessible without JavaScript, and we do that very well.
Is there an actual menu which is more than a tree? Because a dir element that gets rendered by the UA into native menu controls would be just so much better.
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#79Fascinating reading if you care about system design. Who would imagine this charged the world.
https://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/DesignIssues/Overview.htm...
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
In 1993, you could refresh the home page of Netscape (Mosaic) every day and it would mention new sites that had been added. That became unmanageable quickly, which is when two dudes from Stanford started a directory.
I belive that an early beowser, possibly Mosaic, had an edit button. Think of that and the fundamental change of internet philosophy it implies!
One early tool in this space was Navipress (which AOL bought out and made into AOLpress) which is notable for having been used by a certain Tim Berners-Lee to write a book: