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Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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This headline unfortunately offers more smoke than light. This article has nothing to do with the current tête-à-tête with the Pentagon. It is discussing one specific change to Anthropic's "Responsible Scaling Policy" that the company publicly released today as version "3.0".

I consider this a bigger deal than the Pentagon thing.

It’s the same deal

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Plenty of people have said plenty. The problem isn’t the warnings, it’s that people are too stupid and greedy to think about the long term impacts.

Maybe it's how blunt this comment is that gets it downvoted, but I don't disagree.

No, it’s because it shows either a simplistic or needlessly confrontational view of the world.

Unless you’re independently wealthy (as some in HN are), you have to balance your morals, your views of how things should work, feeding your family, and recognizing that you may not actually know everything.

It’s easy to sit back and advise others that they should die on every single hill. But it’s not especially insightful, and serves mostly to signal piety rather than a well thought out view.

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It must be due to pressure from the Defense Dept: The AI startup has refused to remove safeguards that would prevent its technology from being used to target weapons autonomously and conduct U.S. domestic surveillance. Pentagon officials have argued the government should only be required to comply with U.S. law. During the meeting, Hegseth delivered an ultimatum to Anthropic: get on board or the government would take…

They probably have proof in contracts that they agreed to this usage. They won’t alter the deal based on some bad press nor do they want to lose the DoD-DoW as a customer.

From what I was reading, it appears that their tools were used outside the scope of their contract with DoD via Palantir's work that also used Claude. Anthropic freaked out, DoD freaked out that Anthropic freaked out and threatened to declare them a supply chain risk. That designation would've required any company that contracts with DoD to strip out any Anthropic tooling from their business in order to continue working with DoD. It was effectively designating Anthropic a terrorist organization.

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This is something they've been working on "in recent months". The Pentagon thing was today . This cannot have been caused by that, unless they've also invented time travel.

9 days ago: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/15/claude-pentagon-anthropic-c... And I suspect that was not the first time the topic was discussed.

My theory is that Anthropic has been wanting to make this change and doing it now while they’re making a (leaked to the) public stand in the name of ethics was a good opportunity.

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I guess this is Anthropic's DRM moment. (Mozilla resisted allowing Firefox to play DRM- limited media for a long time, until it finally had to give in to stay relevant.)

I don't know enough to evaluate this or other decisions. I'm just glad someone is trying to care, because the default in today's world is to aggressively reject the larger picture in favor of more more more. I don't know how effective Anthropic's attempts to maintain some level of responsibility can be, but they've at least convinced me that they're trying. In the same way that OpenAI, for example, have largely convinced me that they're not. (Neither of those evaluations is absolute; OpenAI could be much worse than it is.)

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Lotta just following orders going around in the US right now.

This isn’t just following orders. This was the government using its might to force a business to do what it wants. This should concern you.

Today’s bingo:

1. Powerful, often exclusionary, populist nationalism centered on cult of a redemptive, “infallible” leader who never admits mistakes.

2. Political power derived from questioning reality, endorsing myth and rage, and promoting lies.

3. Fixation with perceived national decline, humiliation, or victimhood.

4. Oppose any initiatives or institutions that are racially, ethnically, or religiously harmonious.

5. Disdain for human rights while seeking purity and cleansing for those they define as part of the nation.

6. Identification of “enemies”/scapegoats as a unifying cause. Imprison and/or murder opposition and minority group leaders.

7. Supremacy of the military and embrace of paramilitarism in an uneasy, but effective collaboration with traditional elites. Government arms people and justifies and glorifies violence as “redemptive”.

8. Rampant sexism.

9. Control of mass media and undermining “truth”.

10. Obsession with national security, crime and punishment, and fostering a sense of the nation under attack.

11. Religion and government are intertwined.

12. Corporate power is protected and labor power is suppressed.

13. Disdain for intellectuals and the arts not aligned with the narrative.

14. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Loyalty to the leader is paramount and often more important than competence.

15. Fraudulent elections and creation of a one-party state.

16. Often seeking to expand territory through armed conflict.

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How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need? I mean if we're going to have a military at all then we owe it to them to give them the best possible weapons systems that minimize friendly casualties. And let's not have any specious claims that LLMs are somehow special or uniquely dangerous: the US military has deployed operational fully autonomous weapons systems since the…

Why are you asking this question? You know what the answer is, you've just arbitrarily decided that it's specious in an attempt to frame rebuttals as unreasonable.

I'm open to reasonable rebuttals but all the rebuttals that I've seen so far are simply uninformed.
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