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Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by londons_explore »

blibble wrote: post #64
avazhi wrote: post #27

Google deciding to willy nilly unilaterally ban my 20+ year old primary Google account is probably my greatest internet fear, given how famously awful their support is. Seems like it's the singular best example of a tech company so big that through some combination of internal silos and TOS bureaucracy you have no shot of getting your account back, no matter how unreasonable the ban actually is. A while back I made c…

> A while back I made completely separate Google accounts for YouTube and Maps just so my longstanding Gmail account wouldn't get banned if the system somehow detected that my Youtube account for example breached Google's TOS. I bet you that if they ban one they ban the other too the only safe way is to get your important data out of Google entirely after manifest v3's announcement, I de-googled: gmail, chrome, searc…

Linked bans pretty much only happen if you use the same recovery phone number or email address.

Other ways of linking an account, such as having both logged in on the same phone, don't put you at risk.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by paxys »

atlgator wrote: post #42

It's the luxury gym membership model. They want you on the monthly subscription, but put up roadblocks that prevent use.

No they want you to pay for API use. Subscriptions are for first party products that they can control.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by paultendo »

Of course Google can restrict how their API is accessed. But locking paid accounts with no warning, no explanation email, and no functioning support path while continuing to charge $249/month is a different problem entirely. A reasonable enforcement process would have been a warning email, grace period to stop using the tool, then restriction.

What an awful way to lose trust, locking out their users but billing them all the same.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by nacs »

poszlem wrote: post #34

Between this, and whatever Claude has been doing lately, like giving the AI the ability to just disconnect if it dislikes your prompt, I really hope more people realize that local LLMs are where it's at.

> I really hope more people realize that local LLMs are where it's at

No worries, the AI companites thought ahead - by sending GPU, RAM, and now even harddrive prices through the roof, you won't have a computer to run a local model.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by artisin »

Yup. Last week my Ultra account got ToS-banned from both the Gemini CLI and Antigravity simply for using OpenCode. Try as I might, I haven't been able to resolve the issue. I can technically still use the Gemini web/app, but it's remarkably terrible in just about every conceivable way. A truly impressive feat in itself.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by theturtletalks »

paultendo wrote: post #73

Of course Google can restrict how their API is accessed. But locking paid accounts with no warning, no explanation email, and no functioning support path while continuing to charge $249/month is a different problem entirely. A reasonable enforcement process would have been a warning email, grace period to stop using the tool, then restriction. What an awful way to lose trust, locking out their users but billing them…

I was using Antigravity the proper way, but why would I risk my account using this subpar software? OpenClaw and Opencode literally obfuscate the API call exactly like Antigravity calls it. Do you really trust Google to only catch misuse using this dragnet?

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by SilverSlash »

t-writescode wrote: post #63
bethekind wrote: post #15

This is draconian. > Our investigation specifically confirmed that the use of your credentials within the third-party tool “open claw” for testing purposes constitutes a violation of the Google Terms of Service [1]. This is due to the use of Antigravity servers to power a non-Antigravity product. I must be transparent and inform you that, in accordance with Google’s policy, this situation falls under a zero tolerance…

I [ctrl+f]'d for this comment in the thread linked above, and couldn't find it. May I ask where you saw that?

Same. Cannot find it in that thread and I would like to know the source too.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by xnx »

artisin wrote: post #75

Yup. Last week my Ultra account got ToS-banned from both the Gemini CLI and Antigravity simply for using OpenCode. Try as I might, I haven't been able to resolve the issue. I can technically still use the Gemini web/app, but it's remarkably terrible in just about every conceivable way. A truly impressive feat in itself.

Can you use Google AI Studio?
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