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Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by Zak »

CharlesW wrote: post #20
weezing wrote: post #7

This form of content is bad regardless of platform.

The problem with TikTok isn't the form, which is effectively StumbleUpon for short-form video (or Dave Winer's "river of news" in video form, if you prefer). There's brainrot content on all platforms, but there's also ArtTok, BookTok, CraftTok, EduTok, FoodTok, GardenTok, HistoryTok, MathTok, MusicTok, PoliTok, ScienceTok, TechTok, and lots more.

Here's a study showing an immediate negative impact on prospective memory from switching context repeatedly on short-form video platforms: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/09658211.2025.252107...

Unlimited skipping until a video is sufficiently stimulating had a negative impact regardless of the content, while people limited to ten skips in ten minutes did not experience a negative impact. This suggests that the format itself has harmful cognitive effects.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by runako »

weezing wrote: post #7

This form of content is bad regardless of platform.

I'll come at it from another angle. Some of the most popular podcasts (and YouTubers) produce hours of long-form video (an acceptable format) daily. Without naming names, some of those convey less information in 2-3 hours of video than some short form creators do in 2-3 minutes.

The medium influences the message, but the channel still matters.

(And some messengers, especially public intellectuals, are not doing the long form video/audio at all. One prominent TikTok poster has a $$$$$ job as a public intellectual and outside of short form, the other options to consume his content involve $$$ subscriptions or $$$$ in-person events. I'll take his 5-minute videos over those alternatives.)

Separately, I am chuckling at people saying TikTok is "all X" or "nothing but Y" or "overrun with Z." Do people still not know that statements like these are confessions?

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by evolve2k »

Great to see this progressing. Tried it out just now after last testing it over 6 months ago.

I’d say the main “feature” id want to see added is a mandatory field on upload to tick if it’s AI content. Then a tag on videos that are Ai and at the account level to filter out AI content.

Otherwise it’s going to be a slops fest.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by qotgalaxy »

runako wrote: post #72
weezing wrote: post #7

This form of content is bad regardless of platform.

I'll come at it from another angle. Some of the most popular podcasts (and YouTubers) produce hours of long-form video (an acceptable format) daily. Without naming names, some of those convey less information in 2-3 hours of video than some short form creators do in 2-3 minutes. The medium influences the message, but the channel still matters. (And some messengers, especially public intellectuals, are not doing the l…

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Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by fsflover »

jmyeet wrote: post #54

For 20+ years World of Warcraft has dominated the MMORPG genre. There have been a host of challengers and they've all miserably failed. In fact, there have only been a handful of successes (eg UO, EQ, FF14). And what do almost all of these challengers have in common? Some version of "the PvP is going to be amazing". Why do these companies like PVP? Because it's essentially user-generated content. It increases time sp…

> The only people who care about federation are... other people on HN. It does literally nothing for users.

Until enshittification happens. Example: the fall of Freenode.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by cwillu »

sodapopcan wrote: post #55
SpecialistK wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better ways to waste time. If I'm on the toilet not having a fun time, pardon me for wanting to see some cat videos instead of solving a Rubik's Cube, I guess?

You're pardoned, but I have much more fond memories of magazine baskets in bathrooms. Today you should at least have a Switch in there ;) But also, of course people aren't just using these apps in the bathroom, they are using them everywhere. If they didn't exist, you wouldn't miss scrolling the bathroom.

Magazines are exactly the same type swipe-every-few-seconds crap.
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