Does anyone know how this device will filter out other voices like TV talking and stuff like that?
Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company
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#72> The always-on future is inevitable
Not if you use open source. Not if you pay for services contractually will not mine your data. Not if you support start-ups that commit to privacy and the banning of ads.
I said on another thread recently that we need to kill Android, that we need a new Mobile Linux that gives us total control over what our devices do, our software does. Not controlled by a corporation. Not with some bizarre "store" that floods us with millions of malware-ridden apps, yet bans perfectly valid ones. We have to take control of our own destiny, not keep handing it over to someone else for convenience's sake. And it doesn't end at mobile. We need to find, and support, the companies that are actually ethical. And we need to stop using services that are conveniently free.
Vote with your dollars.
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#73Just when you've asked if there are eggs the doorbell rings, the neighbor stands there in disbelief, it told me to bring you eggs? Give him the half bottle vodka, it's going to expire soon and his son will make a surprise visit tonight. An argument arises and it participates by encouraging both parties with extra talking points. But this was only the beginning, after gathering a few TB worth of micro expressions it s…
I'm invested in this scenario now, you should write a short story.
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#74Ads in AI should be banned right now. We need to learn from mistakes of the internet (crypto, facebook) and aggressively regulate early and often before this gets too institutionalized to remove.
Ads (at least in the classical pre-AI sense) are by orders of magnitude better than preventive laws
I'm not sure how anyone could reasonably argue that Alaska would be orders of magnitude better off if they reversed the implementation of their billboard-banning ballot measure and put up billboards everywhere.
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#75This was the inevitable endpoint of the current AI unit economics. When inference costs are this high and open-source models are compressing SaaS margins to zero, companies can't survive on standard subscription models. They have to subsidize the compute by monetizing the user's context window. The real liability isn't just ads; it's what happens when autonomous agents start making financial decisions influenced by s…
Thing is there are OSS models that are near as good. So I don’t see why you’d stay for ad flop when you can just point openrouter one to the left.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Is this somehow fundamentally different from having memories? Because I thought about it, and decided that personally I do - with one important condition, though. I do because my memories are not as great as I would like them to be, and they decline with stress and age. If a machi…
Memories are usually private. People can make them public via a blog. AI feels more like an organized sniffing tool here. > If a product passes those criteria, then it - by design - cannot violate others' privacy A product can most assuredly violate privacy. Just look how Facebook gathered offline data to interconnect people to reallife data points, without their consent - and without them knowing. That's why I call…
> AI feels more like an organized sniffing tool here.
"AI" on its own is an almost meaningless word, because all it tells is that there's something involving machine learning. This alone doesn't have any implied privacy properties, the devil is always in the untold details.
But, yeah, sure, given the current trends I don't think this device will be privacy-respecting, not to say truly private.
> A product can most assuredly violate privacy.
That depends on the design and implementation.
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#77Maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't understand the appeal of the always-on AI assistant at all. Even leaving privacy/security issues aside, and even if it gets super smart and capable, it feels like it would have a distancing effect from my own life, and undermine my own agency in shaping it. I'm not against AI in general, and some assistant-like functionality that functions on demand to search my digital footpri…
It's the rat race. I gotta get my cheese, and fuck you, because you getting cheese means I go hungry. The kindergarden lesson on sharing got replaced by a lesson on intellectual property. Copyright, trademark, patents, and you.
Or we could opt out, and help everyone get ahead, on the rising tide lifts all boats theory, but from what I've seen, the trickle of trickle down economics is urine.
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#78Maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't understand the appeal of the always-on AI assistant at all. Even leaving privacy/security issues aside, and even if it gets super smart and capable, it feels like it would have a distancing effect from my own life, and undermine my own agency in shaping it. I'm not against AI in general, and some assistant-like functionality that functions on demand to search my digital footpri…
Agree.
No matter how useful AI is and will become - I use AI daily, it is an amazing technology - so much of the discourse is indeed a solution looking for a problem. I have colleagues suggesting on exactly everything "can we put an MCP in it" and they don't even know what the point of MCP is!
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#79Maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't understand the appeal of the always-on AI assistant at all. Even leaving privacy/security issues aside, and even if it gets super smart and capable, it feels like it would have a distancing effect from my own life, and undermine my own agency in shaping it. I'm not against AI in general, and some assistant-like functionality that functions on demand to search my digital footpri…
Totally agree. Sounds some envision want some level of Downton Abbey without the humans as service personal. A footman / maid in every room or corner to handle your requests at any given moment.
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#80This spiel is hilarious in the context of the product this company ( https://juno-labs.com/ ) is pushing – an always on, always listening AI device that inserts itself into your and your family’s private lives. “Oh but they only run on local hardware…” Okay, but that doesn't mean every aspect of our lives needs to be recorded and analyzed by an AI. Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (inc…
> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Is this somehow fundamentally different from having memories? Because I thought about it, and decided that personally I do - with one important condition, though. I do because my memories are not as great as I would like them to be, and they decline with stress and age. If a machi…
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