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Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

ttul wrote: post #33

I wonder how much the tech bros are going to regret having bent over for Trump in 2028 when a Democrat is sitting in the Whitehouse looking at rolling out some retribution using the new legal tools the Trump team succeeded in securing during his second term. We might see some heavy regulation descending onto the industry as a response. On the other hand, the long term trend of billionaires and large companies getting…

How is a Democrat going to be sitting in the Whitehouse when Trump/Vance is still there with a large contingency of loyal armed ICE agents looking to target dissenters?

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Post by embedding-shape »

api wrote: post #24
tehjoker wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s fair, I don’t think the CEOs are fully aligned culturally with Trump but they are sick of pretending to be liberals that care about other people and they want to make more money.

Depends on who you mean. Some of them are nodding and smiling while they count the days until Trump dies. Some of them are “pilled” and totally on board.

And ultimately the consequences of both group is the same. The only way to get rid of fascism is to fight against it, there is no "neutral" position possible unfortunately.

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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ttul wrote: post #33

I wonder how much the tech bros are going to regret having bent over for Trump in 2028 when a Democrat is sitting in the Whitehouse looking at rolling out some retribution using the new legal tools the Trump team succeeded in securing during his second term. We might see some heavy regulation descending onto the industry as a response. On the other hand, the long term trend of billionaires and large companies getting…

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Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Post by davidw »

tehjoker wrote: post #5

All the tech ceos are on the trump train this time around, it was a specific strategy of the trump campaign. Using words like “caved” as though they were pressured and not already aligned with the government is a disservice.

May shame and disgrace follow them for the rest of their lives.

Having been around for a while, to go from optimistic, but sort of naive techno-libertarianism that was once a thing in Silicon Valley to kissing up to a would-be authoritarian is a very sad arc.

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Post by mctt »

trollbridge wrote: post #68

Now I experience doubt when I read this article whether the journalist actually interviewed anybody, or just cut and pasted ChatGPT.

https://www.pangram.com/history/f51a237d-df7c-46cb-8cf2-c5b7... It scores 100% human written.

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Post by oceansky »

somenameforme wrote: post #64
oceansky wrote: post #57

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They are both fully legal.

That's, at the minimum, debatable. The primary point of people reporting on the location if ICE agents is to enable other people to evade or interfere with law enforcement. And that walks right into the illegal zone in various ways - accessory, obstruction, interference, aiding and abetting, and so on.

Pointing out police checkpoints aren't illegal. Waze is partially based on that.

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Post by davidw »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #40
tehjoker wrote: post #5

All the tech ceos are on the trump train this time around, it was a specific strategy of the trump campaign. Using words like “caved” as though they were pressured and not already aligned with the government is a disservice.

They know what they are doing. To survive as a large entity during this administration you have to kiss the ring. If you don't, you'll get targeted for being 'woke' or whatever. In fact, kissing Trump's ass is more important for success than actually making a good product at this point. I definitely don't think what these CEOs are doing is moral, but it's certainly rational.

Kissing up to the bully just means they come back to extort you for more the next time. I don't think it's even rational behavior.

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Post by nilamo »

api wrote: post #30
mfuzzey wrote: post #28

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I disagree. Sure corporations have to respect the LAW in their juradiction, even if said law is unpopular or unethical. But they don't have to, and shouldn't where ethics and human rights are involved, go beyond what is required by the law. Since Trump has come to power a lot of big organsations seem to be reversing their previous positions to gain political favour, which is wrong. The solution is probably for them t…

One Trump tweet can destroy a company’s stock price. Trump has amazing power over public companies as the absolute king of the attention economy.

I wish I understood how that works. Retail investors are so small, compared with hedge funds and whatnot, that "average people" cannot move a stock price significantly. So, when Trump tweets about a company, how does the stock move? Who is actually doing all that selling to drive the price down?

And, since the price almost always recovers within a week... does it even matter?

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Post by lambdasquirrel »

Tagbert wrote: post #18
dixie_land wrote: post #16

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Was it ever?

The British Government believes it to be secure. That’s why they were asking for a back door.

That only means that the UK government doesn’t have access to the backdoor.
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