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Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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You like me for my (always right) conspiratorial takes I got another one: Look, follow the money, Microsoft knows Windows 11 on handhelds is a dumpster fire right now, and they are not ready to drop their own "Xbox Portable" yet So how do they keep the market from moving to the alternative SteamOS/Valve? They trojan horse the "alternative" Think about it: Bazzite pops up, gains massive community "trust", every tradit…

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Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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I understand there's been drama, and someone walked away or was pushed out. I don't quite care enough to understand it all or point at guilty parties. However, my current understanding is that the project remains active, so titling this article "Post Mortem" feels a bit like it's done in bad faith as it's usually applied to projects that are over. It's certainly what I immediately assumed made it newsworthy.

Antheas was the #1 most active developer, and responsible for almost all low level integrations.

Nope, he was not, and his software will be replaced.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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post #34

what exactly happened to bazzite? I've seen so much hype around the distro and buzz among normal people, that it almost became THE normal gamer distro, so much so it completely overshadowed nobara and whatever other gamer gimmick distros are out there

Its fine and did not die. In fact its growing as always, even with "drama". https://github.com/ublue-os/countme/blob/main/growth_bazzite...

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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post #25

I guess the good thing about Bazzite, CachyOS, Omarchy and what have you, is that it brings new users to Linux. I would still like to see most users pick established distros, as contributions there have a higher impact on the ecosystem. But self-named gamers are probably harder to reason with.

I've been using desktop Linux for 20 years in various capacities. I most recently picked Bazzite for my gaming/desktop VM because it's simple to set up and works better than other distros I've tried to game on in the recent past. It's that simple.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flatpak and Snap are new to me, and that's the annoyance. Like I get if there's some technical advantage to a snap, but apt can install snaps too. Also idk what .appimage is. rpm was a thing that existed but wasn't a Mint way of installing. Tar, yes. I can see why you'd consider a tar a package, but I was thinking of things actually designed for packages, and tar isn't really an extra thing to learn and deal with. Po…

> Flatpak and Snap are new to me and that's the annoyance. These were designed to solve different problems. PS - Just avoid snap. Fuck snap. All my homies hate snap. Flatpak otoh is software basically delivered in a container with some security restrictions. It works great, but you may want a GUI problem called "flatseal" to enable access to certain parts of the host filesystem, device access, etc depending on specif…

I'm not really obligated to catch up on that. I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out, until then Mac is a fine dev/personal machine.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On desktops and servers yeah. Bazzite was a bit of a special case as it was catered to handheld devices. So it did have that going for it. A one stop install that just supported everything on these devices from the start.

I've been thinking we could eliminate a lot of niche specialized distros by replacing them with system configs for Guix System or NixOS. Maybe if you got Ansible involved it could work for Debian and Arch also. Set your default packages, custom kernel, whatever else in there. Everything needing a big brand, name, logo, website, and so on seems a bit excessive at times.

Now it’s your responsibility to explain what any of these words mean to an average user who just wants to play their Steam games. Like it or not, brands have power. It’s been hard enough to convince people already willing to try Linux gaming to use one of the dedicated gaming distros, instead of waiting for when SteamOS is going to support their hardware.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flatpak and Snap are new to me and that's the annoyance. These were designed to solve different problems. PS - Just avoid snap. Fuck snap. All my homies hate snap. Flatpak otoh is software basically delivered in a container with some security restrictions. It works great, but you may want a GUI problem called "flatseal" to enable access to certain parts of the host filesystem, device access, etc depending on specif…

I'm not really obligated to catch up on that. I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out, until then Mac is a fine dev/personal machine.

> I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out

You don't understand. This won't be "sorted out", this is a feature.

Maybe it's just not for you, and that's ok.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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post #51
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On desktops and servers yeah. Bazzite was a bit of a special case as it was catered to handheld devices. So it did have that going for it. A one stop install that just supported everything on these devices from the start.

I've been thinking we could eliminate a lot of niche specialized distros by replacing them with system configs for Guix System or NixOS. Maybe if you got Ansible involved it could work for Debian and Arch also. Set your default packages, custom kernel, whatever else in there. Everything needing a big brand, name, logo, website, and so on seems a bit excessive at times.

Bazzite is sortof in that category, though. Fedora atomic is a podman container image, and Bazzite is using that as FROM in their Containerfile. It's niche and specialized only to the extent that they're providing gaming specific setup (like Nvidia drivers). It's mostly a Fedora system.

https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/main/Containerfile

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flatpak and Snap are new to me and that's the annoyance. These were designed to solve different problems. PS - Just avoid snap. Fuck snap. All my homies hate snap. Flatpak otoh is software basically delivered in a container with some security restrictions. It works great, but you may want a GUI problem called "flatseal" to enable access to certain parts of the host filesystem, device access, etc depending on specif…

I'm not really obligated to catch up on that. I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out, until then Mac is a fine dev/personal machine.

Are you sure that's okay? It has App Store, .pkg, drag-to-install, homebrew, MacPorts, and who knows what else!

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antheas was the #1 most active developer, and responsible for almost all low level integrations.

Nope, he was not, and his software will be replaced.

https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/commits/main/?after=e49f...
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