I found this video review to be much more informative and compelling. https://youtu.be/6Wv1btxCjVE?si=_1mvIHT3r_CQsuTZ
I find the thin steering wheels sumptuous.
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#72Porsche is the only car company that has nailed interior EV design - IMO. Their interiors look high-end, functional and not just a minimalist big computer screen. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g46528574/2024-porsche-m...
The new Cayenne interior is terrible. Macan is good. Rivian is the only excellent one.
Rivians don't even have a physical vent control (to aim the vents). That alone disqualifies it from anything close to "excellent". And that's before mentioning all the missing physical buttons that should've been there.
Touch screen buttons, especially the ones on the far edge of the center screen, are harder to accurately hit for most people. More physical buttons = better = more premium.
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#73In case anyone was wondering what the Apple Car would have looked like inside, it would have been roughly this. As an Apple Car™ it makes sense, but as a Ferrari it's incredibly soulless and oversimplified. This Ive design aesthetic (Dieter Rams' aesthetic really) is fine on consumer electronics where you want the device to disappear and give way to the display, but on something as emotional as a vehicle (Ferrari esp…
It certainly looks like an Apple device. Ive's aesthetic is Apple's aesthetic, so if you hire Ive, that is what you are going to get.
I can see a car company who doesn't care about design stumbling into this outcome, but Ferrari doesn't seem like that kind of company. So the choice must have been intentional.
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#74> First Electric Ferrari
This is big. Ferrari, as a brand, is the top cult of internal combustion engine.
For them to release an EV is like Apple releasing an Windows computer or Android phone.
Soon, the last holdout of big oil will be the American government.
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#75FYI, the Wikipedia article has a little more data on this vehicle as an EV: 4 motors, 1,113 horsepower, an 880 V platform, 122 kWh of battery, range 330 miles (531.1 km). Not clear yet on the exact charge speed or launch date. Or what the 0-100km/h time is, but expect a low number, of course. That number has to be eye-catching. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_Luce
Problem is that in an EV world the raw figures are really not going to be that impressive. Plenty of Chinese EVs have 1000+hp at far lower cost, and likely as good or better acceleration that whatever Ferrari can deliver, since EVs seem to be reaching a point where the limit on acceleration is the tires rather than the motor. So don't think Ferrari can deliver anything truly eye catching in those terms. Differentiation needs to come in other domains.
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#76The handle and palm rest, in particular, stick out to me as a step up for anything with a touch screen. Giving you a place to anchor your hand while a finger does something is very nice. That the display can articulate is also nice, though it does add a potential weak point (how long until this gets loosey-goosey and moves around during hard g-forces?).
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#77Fortunately, there are many physical buttons. In the video, you can see that their functions vary depending on what is displayed on the screen. I think this is a brilliant solution that combines the best of the physical and virtual worlds.
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#78Porsche is the only car company that has nailed interior EV design - IMO. Their interiors look high-end, functional and not just a minimalist big computer screen. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g46528574/2024-porsche-m...
Lexus CT200h is one of the best interiors ever designed. The design language was tactile: every single button or control had a different action or feel. https://cdn-fastly.thetruthaboutcars.com/media/2022/07/20/94... There’s a roughly 7 inch above the vents that flips up whenever the car is off, but using the screen is optional. The screen is up near the road, and it’s very safe to use. There’s a small joystick to mo…
CT200h is the nearly perfect hybrid, IMHO, interior included. Thumbs up emoji!
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I first thought that too, but if you take the time to scroll down a bit, you'll see that the instruments are actually three separate screens, and at least the center one has a mechanical needle. Also, the central control panel has lots of physical switches (Musk would hate it) and even a round instrument in the top right corner with mechanical hands, which can be either a clock, a stopwatch or (for whatever reason) a…
No not literally, but that is what it looks like. It would have been much better imho to for instance have lots of tiny screens embedded in the dashboard/console alongside their respective buttons. Each "app" gets their own toggle and physical dials. That would have been expensive and cool and could have been made not-tacky. (Like some cars are, expensive and cool but also without any class whatsoever, they look like…
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is oversimplified specifically (given this is an electric car)
This question's answer would require something more lecture length that dives into fundamentals of design with an equal amount of time spent on automotive design. No one has the time or care for something like that, so I'll try to give a high level answer. Generally speaking, cars are not about simple designs/shapes. They, especially to enthusiasts, are viewed as something closer to art where care is taken to craft s…
+1 to everything you say here, but unfortunately I doubt this will sway anyone who doesn't have similar feelings upon just looking at the thing with their own two eyes.