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OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by antiframe »

ceejayoz wrote: post #58
cwillu wrote: post #53

“Mac will try hard not to let you run this; it will tell you the app is damaged and can’t be opened and helpfully offer to trash it for you. From a terminal you can xattr -cr /path/to/OpenCiv3.app to enable running it.” How far OSX has come since the days of the “cancel or allow” parody advert.

To be fair, the threat landscape changed, too.

Not terribly fair. When Windows decided running everything as administrator was bad and to add a visual sudo-like prompt, Apple made fun of them for it, but it was Microsoft reacting to a changing threat landscape then too.

Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by warmwaffles »

data-ottawa wrote: post #8
warmwaffles wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually preferred Civ 3 to 2 and 4. It scratched a certain itch.

3 is still my favourite of the series. 5 was good too, but 3 overall feels complete and had great graphics.

The modding community was gigantic for 3 and was simply amazing being a part of it.

Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by Folcon »

ceejayoz wrote: post #58
cwillu wrote: post #53

“Mac will try hard not to let you run this; it will tell you the app is damaged and can’t be opened and helpfully offer to trash it for you. From a terminal you can xattr -cr /path/to/OpenCiv3.app to enable running it.” How far OSX has come since the days of the “cancel or allow” parody advert.

To be fair, the threat landscape changed, too.

I mean it has, but the situation is getting ridiculous, I'm at the point where I'm honestly not sure what special set of magical incantations and rituals I need to do to get this process to work, it seems to change between different bits of software and get more complex with time as if Apple keeps finding proverbial bigger fools who can get through this mess without intending to and so they're solution is to keep making it increasingly more Byzantine

The thing that really irks me is I've got a paid developer account with Apple, I've already done the xcode dance, notarized binaries and all that nonsense, shouldn't this have activated some super special bit on my Apple account that says

“this one needs to do random stuff now and again and after saying, `Hey just checking in, doing this will do X to your computer probably, and maybe set it on fire, but if you say "go for it, I promise I know what I'm doing', I'm gonna trust you champ`, finger guns“

(not sure why in my head the personification of Apple would do "finger guns", but here we are I guess :shrug:)

Hell at this point I'll take a checkbox in my settings that says, ”Some people are into extreme sports, I love to install random binaries, just get out of my way“

Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by adarsh2321 »

cwillu wrote: post #53

“Mac will try hard not to let you run this; it will tell you the app is damaged and can’t be opened and helpfully offer to trash it for you. From a terminal you can xattr -cr /path/to/OpenCiv3.app to enable running it.” How far OSX has come since the days of the “cancel or allow” parody advert.

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Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by imglorp »

Folcon wrote: post #74
ceejayoz wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the threat landscape changed, too.

I mean it has, but the situation is getting ridiculous, I'm at the point where I'm honestly not sure what special set of magical incantations and rituals I need to do to get this process to work, it seems to change between different bits of software and get more complex with time as if Apple keeps finding proverbial bigger fools who can get through this mess without intending to and so they're solution is to keep mak…

You shouldn't need the company's permission to run whatever you want on your machine.

Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by cyphar »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #2

I love that the community is doing this, though I'm curious why Civ 3 in particular. My understanding was that "classic" (for lack of a better term) Civ fans tend to prefer either 2 or 4, and that 3 was considered to be not as good. But perhaps I was mistaken as to the community's opinions on the games.

I must admit that there is a certain sense of nostalgia I get from playing Civ 3 that I never got from any of the other Civ games, but that's probably just because it was the first Civ game I played and got really hooked on as a young kid.

Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by heavyset_go »

cwillu wrote: post #53

“Mac will try hard not to let you run this; it will tell you the app is damaged and can’t be opened and helpfully offer to trash it for you. From a terminal you can xattr -cr /path/to/OpenCiv3.app to enable running it.” How far OSX has come since the days of the “cancel or allow” parody advert.

This is the reason I dropped macOS as a platform target. Apple will make users think you're a hacker trying to trick them, because macOS acts as if your app is radioactive if you don't pay the Apple tax, and refuses to let users run the apps they want.

Maybe 1 out of 1,000 users will know the magic ritual required to run what they want on their machine, and for every one of those, 10,000 are gaslit into thinking you were trying to harm them by macOS' scary warnings and refusal to do what they want.

Re: OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

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Post by anthonyIPH »

popalchemist wrote: post #40
WildWeazel wrote: post #23

Hi all, OpenCiv3 founder here. Thanks for the support! Check us out on Civfanatics or Discord to keep up with the project.

Have you considered adding LLM features for the negotiations? Could be cool.

From what I've seen with projects like this, the successful ones do a good job of 'sticking to the mission' of faithfully recreating the original game in a modern engine (openMW, daggerfall unity, all my points of reference are TES related)

The neat part is that they are open source, so anyone who wants to take it in a different direction can fork it. The multiplayer version openMW being a great example of this.

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