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BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

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Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#71

I think this is misunderstood - everybody points out that how evil BMW is for trying to be proprietary, then immediately points out any Chinese factory can produce a compatible tool for pennies - which one is it? I think this is a pretty good mechanical design in general because: - large contact surface (like hex or torx) - no chance of slide-out (like flathead) or torque-out (like Philips) - you can use a different…

The article says it cannot withstand the torque of torx or hex.

Torx and hex already solve the slide out problem.

Which part of this makes you think "Hmmm yes this is great design"? What would bad design look like to you?

Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#72
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their point is that there's a possibility that Swiss customs fines them and confiscates the "counterfeit."

Maybe, the problem is that customs are not opening every package and as long as manufacturer won't name the copy as "screwdriver for patented BMW screw" but something more like screwdriver SN-2249 then how customs would know what that screwdriver is for?

Customs could just ask you for a declaration, where if you lied and they found out later, you'd suffer a heavier penalty. I dont know if they do that right now (not familiar with it).

Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#73
post #27

BMW: The Ultimate Asshole Machine.. now with more assholery to assholes too! (Their motorcycles had a better rep until now.)

> Their motorcycles had a better rep until now. No they didn't. Driveshafts are notoriously bad. It's the kind of failure that leaves you on foot in the middle of nowhere.

Old ones then. Is this new ones? Which model year range?

Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#74
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe, the problem is that customs are not opening every package and as long as manufacturer won't name the copy as "screwdriver for patented BMW screw" but something more like screwdriver SN-2249 then how customs would know what that screwdriver is for?

Customs could just ask you for a declaration, where if you lied and they found out later, you'd suffer a heavier penalty. I dont know if they do that right now (not familiar with it).

What would they found? I have ordered screwdriver SN-2249. Customs sees screwdriver SN-2249 on manifest and on invoice. What that screwdriver is used for? For tightening and loosing screws, duh. In no step of the process I have lied.

Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#75
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Their motorcycles had a better rep until now. No they didn't. Driveshafts are notoriously bad. It's the kind of failure that leaves you on foot in the middle of nowhere.

Old ones then. Is this new ones? Which model year range?

Is 2025-10-15 recent enough?

https://www.rideapart.com/news/776212/bmw-r1300rt-cardan-sha...

Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#76
Seems to be in line with BMW's enshitification moves they've made regarding Home Assistant. I actually have an X5 that was affected by this & it will be the last BMW I ever own.

https://alerts.home-assistant.io/alerts/bmw_connected_drive/

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1n8tidg/bmw_...

Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#78
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Old ones then. Is this new ones? Which model year range?

Is 2025-10-15 recent enough? https://www.rideapart.com/news/776212/bmw-r1300rt-cardan-sha...

I wonder how many lemon law lawyers were involved before that happened.

Re: BMW's Newest "Innovation" Is a Logo-Shaped Middle Finger to Right to Repair

#79
I have heard about these screws, but it isn't a reach to hand make a bit that would turn these all day, that said, I am done with screens and capacitive switches in cars and will be doing retro mods to a few nice clasics for my own use, one that only beeps when you push the giant button just for that.
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