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Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by tayo42 »

aspectrr wrote: post #2

Hey HN, My name is Collin and I'm working on fluid.sh ( https://fluid.sh ) the Claude Code for Infrastructure. What does that mean? Fluid is a terminal agent that do work on production infrastructure like VMs/K8s cluster/etc. by making sandbox clones of the infrastructure for AI agents to work on, allowing the agents to run commands, test connections, edit files, and then generate Infra-as-code like an Ansible Playbo…

> I didn't want CC to SSH into a prod machine from where it is running locally (real problem!). I wanted to lock down the tools it can run to be only on sandboxes while also giving it autonomy to create sandboxes and not have access to anything else.

This is already the modern way to run infra. If your running simple apps, why are you even spinning up vms? Container running platforms make this so easy.

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by neochief »

jrvarela56 wrote: post #22
falloutx wrote: post #9

All these tools to build something, but nothing to build. I feel like I am part of a Pyramid Scheme where every product is about building something else, but nothing reaches the end user. Note: nothing against fluid.sh, I am struggling to figure out something to build.

I’ve been a year deep into my first job out of tech. There is a never ending slew of problems where being able to code, specially now with AI, means you have wizard-like powers to help your coworkers. My codebase is full of one-offs that slowly but surely converge towards cohesive/well-defined/reusable capabilities based on ‘real’ needs. I’m now starting to pitch consulting to a niche to see what sticks. If the dynam…

Can I ask what do you do now?

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by CuriouslyC »

aabajian wrote: post #14
falloutx wrote: post #9

All these tools to build something, but nothing to build. I feel like I am part of a Pyramid Scheme where every product is about building something else, but nothing reaches the end user. Note: nothing against fluid.sh, I am struggling to figure out something to build.

That is the problem with software developers with expertise in software, but no deep domain knowledge outside the CS world.

It's way easier to raise for dev tools than domain tools right now.

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by aspectrr »

stackskipton wrote: post #64

Ops person here. I'm already using LLM to generate things and I'm not sure what this adds. The Demo isn't really doing it for me but maybe I'm wrong target for it. (What is running on that server? You don't know. Build your cattle properly!) Maybe this is better for one man band devs trying to get something running without caring beyond, it's running.

Hey no problem! I'll work on the demo more. I discuss this in my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=46889704&goto=item%3Fi...

and on the website: https://fluid.sh

But fluid lets AI investigate, explore, run commands, and edit files in a production-cloned sandbox. LLMs are great at writing IaC, but the LLMs won't get the right context from just generating an Ansible Playbook. They need a place to run commands safely and test changes before writing the IaC. Much like a human, hence the sandbox.

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by isubkhankulov »

tempest_ wrote: post #27
aabajian wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the problem with software developers with expertise in software, but no deep domain knowledge outside the CS world.

It is my belief with some exceptions it is almost always easier to teach a domain expert to code than it is to teach a software developer the domain.

In practice, does that happen? Usually companies try to bring the best of both and build from there.

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by cortesoft »

falloutx wrote: post #9

All these tools to build something, but nothing to build. I feel like I am part of a Pyramid Scheme where every product is about building something else, but nothing reaches the end user. Note: nothing against fluid.sh, I am struggling to figure out something to build.

One of my first professional coding jobs was in 2007 when Facebook first introduced 'Facebook Apps'. I worked for a startup making a facebook app, and EVERY SINGLE app company had the same monetization strategy: Selling ads for other facebook apps.

So the lifecycle of an app would be:

1) Create your game/quiz/whatever app.

2) Pay a successful app $x per install, and get a bunch of app installs.

3) Put all sorts of scammy "get extra in game perks if you refer your friends" to try to become viral.

4) Hope to become big enough that people start finding you without having to pay for ads.

5) Sell ads to other facebook app startups to generate installs for them.

It was a completely circular economy. There was not product or income source other than the next layer of the pyramid.

It didn't last long.

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by lijok »

xyzzy123 wrote: post #20
lijok wrote: post #4

FUCK NO. Who in their right mind would let an LLM connect to prod?

Many places have "dev", "test" "prod"... but IMHO you need "sandpit" as well. From an ops point of view as orgs get big enough, dev wraps around to being prod-like... in the sense that it has the property that there's going to be a lot of annoyed people whose time you're wasting if you break things. You can take the approach of having more guard rails and controls to stop people breaking things but personally I prefe…

There’s no sandpit, only prod and dev, and you’re not allowed to break prod. Your developers work in partitions of prod. Dev is used for DR and other infra testing.

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by lijok »

aspectrr wrote: post #54
lijok wrote: post #4

FUCK NO. Who in their right mind would let an LLM connect to prod?

Hey, I get it. I don't want LLMs on prod at all. I made this to let agents connect to production cloned sandboxes, not production itself. I hope this helps your concerns, but I understand either way. Lmk with any other questions.

What’s a production cloned sandbox? Take my comment as feedback that the landing page is anaemic

Re: Claude Code for Infrastructure

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Post by baby »

falloutx wrote: post #9

All these tools to build something, but nothing to build. I feel like I am part of a Pyramid Scheme where every product is about building something else, but nothing reaches the end user. Note: nothing against fluid.sh, I am struggling to figure out something to build.

I’m on the other hand, I have a million ideas and AI has allowed me to implement so many of them.
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