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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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post #54

Policy in the pursuit of easy political narrative wins looks like this. US gun crime is a national issue, and therefore unsolvable in the current political climate, so useless posturing like this is what we're left with. The real fix is something like a nationwide licensing system like for cars, with auditing of weapons and weapon storage.

Meanwhile gun crime is near record lows, but it's still a "gun violence epidemic"

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post #24

I don't think they know what Ctrl+Alt+Delete means. They want to restart it? They want to go to the screen where you can switch users or sign out? Do they think it's just a fancier way of saying delete?

Reminds me of people who think penultimate is just super-duper-ultimate.

"Irregardless"

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#73
Any state laws trying to restrict the 2nd amendment are always going to be useless. You're not going to stop someone who's determined at causing harm with firearms in a country where firearms outnumber people. All these little "bandaid" solutions do is allow for fishing expeditions by police and prosecutors.

On a related point, trying to implement more gun control after seeing how this federal government is deploying the three letter agencies is pretty fucking stupid.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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post #13

I don't think they know what Ctrl+Alt+Delete means. They want to restart it? They want to go to the screen where you can switch users or sign out? Do they think it's just a fancier way of saying delete?

Alter the control, and delete! In modern Windows, the three-key salute is a way to lock your session securely. Maybe that's what they mean: locking it up?

It brings up the Task Manager, that lets you forcibly stop processes, and this is a way for the (NY State) Government to take control of your printer, the analogy isn't bad.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah they should also ban metal working in New York... The stupidest thing is you can go to another state and buy a gun in Walmart, why even bother to build a plastic gun in the US?

Is this a real question? Legally buying guns in the US come with registration of serial numbers, names, and addresses. Printing a gun does not. Printing a gun also does not need to wait for a multi-day delay from a background check. Depending on the printer, it could just take multiple days to print. Asking why someone would want to do this is just not trying very hard in the conversation is actually pretty myopic.

> Legally buying guns in the US come with registration of serial numbers, names, and addresses.

It is illegal for the government to make a registry of gun owners. There is an electronic check to clear you as a legal gun owner but there is no registry.

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> The New York definitions sweep in not just FDM and resin printers, but also CNC mills and “any machine capable of making three-dimensional modifications to an object from a digital design file using subtractive manufacturing.”

...what? This some of the stupidest, most out of touch garbage I've ever read and clearly made by uneducated lawmakers being out of their depth.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is handled without banning glass containers.

Nobody banned anything here either.

What's "blocking technology", then? I'm repeating an argument from the article, which itself is an argument older than the microprocessor:

> But the answer to misuse isn’t surveillance built into the tool itself. We don’t require table saws to scan wood for weapon shapes. We don’t require lathes to phone home before turning metal. We prosecute people who make illegal things, not people who own tools.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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> The obvious problem: you cannot reliably detect firearms from geometry alone.

The obvious problem with this argument is that in just the medium term, world-model style AI will get good at this task, but having big brother pre-approve every print will still be bad.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The folks at adafruit probably do know, but it does make sense if you expand the words: "Control, Alter, and Delete"

That's more charitable. Alt is still short for Alternate though, not Alter.

I thought "Alt" in the title is meant in the sense of "stop", as in "halt", but on second thoughts maybe that only works in French (where h is always silent)?

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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post #54

Policy in the pursuit of easy political narrative wins looks like this. US gun crime is a national issue, and therefore unsolvable in the current political climate, so useless posturing like this is what we're left with. The real fix is something like a nationwide licensing system like for cars, with auditing of weapons and weapon storage.

The real fix is to leave it alone. You're wasting political capital by pushing for gun control yet again. You'd want the Trump administration to have access to a database of gun owners like the Black Panthers? Seriously?
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