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A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by randusername »

causal wrote: post #17

> amongst smart people i know there's a surprisingly high correlation between those who continue to be unimpressed by AI and those who use a hobbled version of it. I've noticed this too, and I think it's a good thing: much better to start using the simplest forms and understand AI from first principles rather than purchase the most complete package possible without understanding what is going on. The cranky ones on H…

I think you have to get in early to understand the opportunities and limitations.

I feel lucky to have experienced early Facebook and Twitter. My friends and I figured out how to avoid stupidity when the stakes were low. Oversharing, getting "hacked", recognizing engagement-bait. And we saw the potential back when the goal was social networking, not making money. Our parents were late. Lambs for the slaughter by the time the technology got so popular and the algorithms got so good and users were conditioned to accept all the ads and privacy invasiveness as table stakes.

I think AI is similar. Lower the stakes, then make mistakes faster than everyone else so you learn quickly.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by Uehreka »

layer8 wrote: post #66
imsohotness wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen this before, I know Sam Altman does it (or used to do it). That was a couple years ago. Hope it doesn't become a trend.

Unfortunately it has become quite common on HN already. It comes from people growing up on smartphone chats where the kids apparently don’t care to press Shift.

What’s weird though is that modern OSes often auto-capitalize the first letter of a sentence, so it actually takes more effort to deliberately type in all-lowercase.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by surrTurr »

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

as perfect text became an indicator for AI generated content, people intentionally make mistakes (capitalization) to make their text appear more human; and its also faster

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by granoIacowboy »

codeulike wrote: post #52

If you're on MS stack, this is all stuff that MS 365 Copilot will already do for you, but with much better defined barriers around what it can and cant access.

This is the first positive thing I have heard about copilot. You’ve found it genuinely capable?

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by yomismoaqui »

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

For me is like a someone is trying to show me something using form instead of content.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by velcrovan »

grugdev42 wrote: post #22

There is only so much damage a human assistant can do. But an AI assistant can do so much more damage in a short space of time. It probably won't go wrong, but when it does go wrong you will feel immense pain. I will keep low productivity in exchange for never having to deal with the fallout.

Human beings are also liable for the results of their actions.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by moss_dog »

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

I'm generally of the opinion that capitalization is not necessary in many cases, such as at the start of sentences. That's what punctuation is for :)

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by rileymichael »

Uehreka wrote: post #72
layer8 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately it has become quite common on HN already. It comes from people growing up on smartphone chats where the kids apparently don’t care to press Shift.

What’s weird though is that modern OSes often auto-capitalize the first letter of a sentence, so it actually takes more effort to deliberately type in all-lowercase.

simple toggle to disable it permanently

my reasoning is that i don’t want identifiable markers for what device im writing from. so all auto-* (capitalization, correct, etc.) features are disabled so that i have raw input

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by cess11 »

'the sweet sweet elixir of context is a real "feel the AGI" moment and it's hard to go back without feeling like i would be willingly living my most important relationship in amnesia'

I'm not so sure that I would use the word "sane" to describe this.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by [deleted] »

grugdev42 wrote: post #22

There is only so much damage a human assistant can do. But an AI assistant can do so much more damage in a short space of time. It probably won't go wrong, but when it does go wrong you will feel immense pain. I will keep low productivity in exchange for never having to deal with the fallout.

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