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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#71

The real issue was never AI in Windows It was AI with no clear user benefit. A Copilot button in Notepad doesn't solve a problem anyone has Good to see them pulling back, but the test will be whether the features they keep actually earn their place in the workflow instead of just being there because someone had a KPI to hit

Notepad had been perfect for 20 years. Morons fucked with it.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#72

I can’t believe I’m going to type this, but I miss the Ballmer days. Current leadership has somehow made this company even worse.

Eh, I am pretty sure that if Ballmer was at the wheel today we would see AI literally everywhere in Windows.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

You assume Microsoft is interested in offering Windows as a primary consumer product, and not the coercive cross-selling platform that W11 is for Microsoft's higher-margin cloud products. This assumption is wrong. As an OS, Windows died with 10.

Their customers for Windows are enterprises, OEM's, Azure users and now advertisers. Direct consumers probably don't register in any internal reports.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#74

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I don't know about Windows, but it will take a lot more enshittification than that to burn down the Office brand. Excel alone carries it to dominance.

The Office brand is literally gone, they renamed it to "Microsoft Copilot 365 app". Check https://office.com

That's not really what happened...

https://www.theverge.com/tech/856149/microsoft-365-office-re...

tl;dr : the website formerly known as office.com that was a portal for accessing a bunch of stuff changed name to "Microsoft 365" in 2022, and then again more recently (adding the copilot bit).

Edit: Although the horror show that is Microsoft product naming in that area left the door wide open for this confusion.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copilot is such a dumb brand name. At least to me, it confers that I need to be a pilot and that it requires training to be one. I just want to be productive, not fly a plane.

Also, the Copilot is “waiting in the wings” to take over your job.

At least the name is honest.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

I think Windows 11 is the Trump moment. Even if they right the ship, Linux is good enough or good enough is on the near horizon for most use cases so people are jumping ship. There's also bleed from people being tired of Apple's lack of software innovation.

I think they will find it very hard to right the ship. I suspect they have forgotten how to write good software.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#78
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At this point I dont trust common sense in anybody inside Microsoft. They are doing dumb shit for about 5 years now, and killing MS Office, a brand thats market leader for more than 30 years prooves that anybody who had conservative opinion on how software should be built have already abandoned the ship or was kicked out of it. Now is being run by "visionary" marketing people, and the only way left is down.

5 years? try 10 Windows 10 released with the ability for the user to not consent to updates REMOVED the direction of travel from that point on was clear consent was no longer necessary the OS is purpose is no longer to serve the owner of the computer, it is there to serve Microslop's whims and that was the point I went full linux everywhere

Its a fair point.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#79

I can’t believe I’m going to type this, but I miss the Ballmer days. Current leadership has somehow made this company even worse.

What we’re seeing today with Windows is more representative of the times we’re living in rather than because of who’s the CEO.

I don’t doubt for a second Ballmer would also be jumping onto the AI hype train if he was still running the show.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

> The question Microsoft should ask themselves is why they built them in the first place It seems like everyone except MS themselves knows why: they got tunnel vision from Azure and AI, and completely forgot about what actually made them successful. Hell they even burnt down one of the most famous brands in the world, MS Office, for zero reason other than to try and whitewash their Copilot name. The marketing guys wh…

There's no way MS employees at all levels don't know. It only doesn't know organizationally. It's just the boring old incentive alignment problem.

There needs to be more squeaky wheels than anticipated at all times in IT to justify investments in software thereby your compensations and promotions. One easy way to achieve that is to keep throwing in shiny new things with more moving parts so to keep something on fire to keep spotlights on. Webdevs achieve this by wrapping wrappers, Google by pulling plugs randomly off the wall, and various parts of Microsoft for the past few quarters had done so by introducing new GUI toolkits and adding moar AI to Windows.

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