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We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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MTV!

To anyone old enough to have seen the first few years, it was awesome beyond description. Just totally great.

‘Take on Me’, ‘Walk like an Egyptian’, ‘Come On, Eileen’…. That was peak entertainment, the likes of which we have not seen again.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re quickly entering a new era of energy abundance, without needing to constantly dig up, process, and cart around enormous amounts of oil. And solar has recently gotten cheap enough that people in poorer countries around the world are deploying huge amounts of it. That’s pretty amazing!

What does this have to do with my question?

You asked if it's satire, I gave you a reason it might not be.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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A thought I often have - older millennials and younger Gen X have a unique obligation to fix certain parts of society because we are the youngest generation old enough to remember how to operate in and enjoy a world that wasn't A/B tested into a gray, lifeless background hum.

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Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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Social media broke society. The echo chamber effect from the feed algorithms has led to everyone living in their own little realities and it's so terrifying to watch what happens when people don't have the same truths.

I remember early, invite-only Facebook before it got heavily monetized and it was such an amazing tool to bring people together, keep you connected with old friends, organize group events, and stuff like that. Then it... changed.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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For me the 00's were the real deal, that decade when Internet at home finally became affordable but before the arrival of smartphones, social networks, and 24/7 connectivity.

But they were also my high school and university years, and as many other comments have pointed out, we tend to remember those years as the best of our lives.

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Your perception of the best decade is correlated with your age https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/53769-what-are-the...

I've seen a few people point this out in this thread, but, seriously? There's a generation that are going to say the 2020's were the best decade?

I think that suggests:

1) Things are getting worse from decade to decade and,

2) If you weren't alive in an earlier decade you don't know how great it was.

(Personally, I saw the creek start running with shit when cable TV exploded and at the same time trash AM talk-radio began. The 70's were the last decade when we weren't hating each other.)

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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As Douglas Adams and xkcd #1227 have pointed out, the older generations have complained about this sort of thing since Plato. However, I do not believe this observation settles the matter, because it does not seriously contend with the null hypothesis: that we really have been steadily enshittifying the human experience since Plato. Who has the right of it? Do the new generations simply not know what they are missing…

> On the other hand, every single generation can give detailed accounts of how much more real and alive and authentic the world was a few decades ago.

I don’t know that this is true, and I doubt it meant the same thing to Plato as it did to us; I read somewhere that in ancient times, nostalgia would have been for the world of the gods, not a specific time and place.

The thirties and fourties’ were probably not more alive and authentic than the 50’s and 60’s. The 1920’s were a cultural peak that retreated until the 1960’s, and prior to the Industrial Revolution, things didn’t change fast enough for like decades to be significant. The original documented example of nostalgia was about soldiers nostalgic for home, not explicitly their youth or another time.

All these feelings, “nostalgia” are going to hit different without shared cultural experiences, and changing technological and aesthetic context,

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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As an old-timer, the biggest difference between now and the 80s and 90s is that in the 80s and 90s entertainment was relatively scarce. An album cost $20, which was a lot in those days. You could get movies, but you had to go to the video store and remember to return them, and the selection was often limited. If you liked some weird band, most record stores didn't have it. In the 80s TV was very limited and you had t…

I get some of these but at the same time, I happily watched the same videos, played the same game, listened to the same bootleg copy of some cd I was into over and over again. Point being that sure there is more stuff, but I don't think the absence of that abundance doesn't necessarily mean that people would be doing other stuff than consuming some entertainment.

Some thing has obviously changed in society, but what are the other people doing who aren't so insular like we say most of the new generation are? Why doesn't it affect them?

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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I was hoping this would be more fleshed out as an article, but the sentiment is understandable. Want to throw some of my knowledge of digital music, as you called it out specifically. In the late 90s most digitally arranged music production was relegated to trackers (think Amiga trackers) and sequencing samples and loops, because the storage simply didn't exist. Then that would be committed to tape, sometimes on a 4-…

They didn't mean digital music production, they meant digital downloads/streaming of finished music products. As in later in the early 2000s and beyond iPods and mp3 players and then streaming changed everything as far as accessibility.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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Of course the sentiment is there as with any of these kind of posts but a bit revisionist. News, media, personal websites sure, but forums? not so much. Of course usenet and mailing lists and chat rooms but not forums so much. Everything was disjointed and revolved around loosely connected website rings etc. Which brings me to another part - the thing about knowing stuff about people. Reduce that to just knowing people in general. It was double-edged sword. You could connect if you were savvy enough over email with like minded, but if that connection went away for whatever reason, there wasn't like a backup default trail like we have now with Facebook and other general profiles we all see to have. People would disappear with no way to connect to them. Not the best when you look back at it from what we have now and kind of wish some of those connections weren't just 'lost'.
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