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The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by moomoo11 »

3kkdd wrote: post #60
jackblemming wrote: post #50

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You have to give credit to Sam, he’s charismatic enough to the right people to climb man made corporate structures. He was also smart enough to be at the right place at the right time to enrich himself (Silicon Valley). He seems to be pretty good at cutting deals. Unfortunately all of the above seems to be at odds with having any sort of moral core.

Ermmm what? He and his personality caused people like Ilya to leave. At that point the failure risk of OAI jumped tremendously. The reality he will have to face is, he has caused OAIs demise. Perhaps hes ok with that as long as OAI goes down with him. Would expect nothing less from him.

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Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by bredren »

paxys wrote: post #22
jt2190 wrote: post #10

Last paragraph is informative: > Anthropic relies heavily on a combination of chips designed by Amazon Web Services known as Trainium, as well as Google’s in-house designed TPU processors, to train its AI models. Google largely uses its TPUs to train Gemini. Both chips represent major competitive threats to Nvidia’s best-selling products, known as graphics processing units, or GPUs. So which leading AI company is goi…

"Largely" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Yes Google and Amazon are making their own GPU chips, but they are also buying as many Nvidia chips as they can get their hands on. As are Microsoft, Meta, xAI, Tesla, Oracle and everyone else.

How about Apple? How is Apple training its next foundation models?

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by moomoo11 »

ryanSrich wrote: post #65
moomoo11 wrote: post #62

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I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro. You probably know the type (not talking about some 600k TC fang worker, I mean entrepreneurs). He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling. I don’t know him personally but he comes across like an average person if that makes sense (in this environment that is). I think I personall…

Elon is one of the most unlikable people on the planet, so I wouldn't consider him much of a bar.

It’s kind of sad. I can’t believe I used to like him back in the iron man days. Back then I thought he was cool for the various ideas and projects he was working on. I still think many of those are great but he as a person let me down.

Now I have him muted on X.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by ThrowawayTestr »

jychang wrote: post #61
breput wrote: post #41

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Nemotron-3-Nano-30B-A3B[0][1] is a very impressive local model. It is good with tool calling and works great with llama.cpp/Visual Studio Code/Roo Code for local development. It doesn't get a ton of attention on /r/LocalLLaMA but it is worth trying out, even if you have a relatively modest machine. [0] https://huggingface.co/nvidia/NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Nano-30B-A3B... [1] https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Nemotron-3-Nano-3…

It was good for like, one month. Qwen3 30b dominated for half a year before that, and GLM-4.7 Flash 30b took over the crown soon after Nemotron 3 Nano came out. There was basically no time period for it to shine.

Genuinely exciting to be around for this. Reminds me of the time when computers were said to be obsolete by the time you drove them home.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by pinnochio »

TheRoque wrote: post #70
pinnochio wrote: post #51

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> leaked emails where founders say they just wanna get rich without any consideration of their initial "open" claims Point me to these? Would like to have a look.

Sorry, not leaked emails, but it's the Greg Brockman's diary and leaked texts. I didn't find the original lawsuit documents, but there's a screenshot in this video: https://youtu.be/csybdOY_CQM?si=otx3yn4N26iZoN7L&t=182 (timestamp is 3:02 if you don't see it) There's more details about the behind-the-scenes and greg brockman's diary leaks in this article: https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/open-ai-lawsuit-exposed-the..…

Much appreciated!

Edit: Ah, so the fake investment announcements started from the very beginning. Incredible.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by consumer451 »

bredren wrote: post #72
paxys wrote: post #22

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"Largely" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Yes Google and Amazon are making their own GPU chips, but they are also buying as many Nvidia chips as they can get their hands on. As are Microsoft, Meta, xAI, Tesla, Oracle and everyone else.

How about Apple? How is Apple training its next foundation models?

To use the parlance of this thread: "next" foundation models is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Am I doing this right?

My point is, does Apple have any useful foundation models? Last I checked they made a deal with OpenAI, no wait, now with Google.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by moomoo11 »

jacquesm wrote: post #66
moomoo11 wrote: post #62

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I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro. You probably know the type (not talking about some 600k TC fang worker, I mean entrepreneurs). He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling. I don’t know him personally but he comes across like an average person if that makes sense (in this environment that is). I think I personall…

> I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or even Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro. If you nail the bar to the floor, then sure, you can pass over it. > He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling. I don't now what your definition of extreme is but by mine he's pretty extreme. > I think I personally prefer that over Elon’s self induced mental illnesses and…

That’s ok, but AI is useful in particular use cases for many people. I use it a lot and I prefer the Codex 5.2 extra high reasoning model. The AI slop and dumb shit on IG/YT is like the LCD of humans though. They’ve always been there and always will be there to be annoying af. Before AI slop we had brain rot made by humans.

I think over time it (LLM based) will become like an augmenter, not something like what they’re selling as some doomsday thing. It can help people be more efficient at their jobs by quickly learning something new or helping do some tasks.

I find it makes me a lot more productive because I can have it follow my architecture and other docs to pump out changes across 10 files that I can then review. In the old way, it would have taken me quite a while longer to just draft those 10 files (I work on a fairly complex system), and I had some crazy code gen scripts and shit I’d built over the years. So I’d say it gives me about 50% more efficiency which I think is good.

Of course, everyone’s mileage may vary. Kinda reminds me of when everyone was shitting on GUIs, or scripting languages or opinionated frameworks. Except over time those things made productivity increase and led to a lot more solutions. We can nitpick but I think the broader positive implication remains.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by CamperBob2 »

3kkdd wrote: post #60
jackblemming wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to give credit to Sam, he’s charismatic enough to the right people to climb man made corporate structures. He was also smart enough to be at the right place at the right time to enrich himself (Silicon Valley). He seems to be pretty good at cutting deals. Unfortunately all of the above seems to be at odds with having any sort of moral core.

Ermmm what? He and his personality caused people like Ilya to leave. At that point the failure risk of OAI jumped tremendously. The reality he will have to face is, he has caused OAIs demise. Perhaps hes ok with that as long as OAI goes down with him. Would expect nothing less from him.

Ilya took a swing at the king and missed. It would have been awkward to hang around after that debacle.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by breput »

jychang wrote: post #61
breput wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nemotron-3-Nano-30B-A3B[0][1] is a very impressive local model. It is good with tool calling and works great with llama.cpp/Visual Studio Code/Roo Code for local development. It doesn't get a ton of attention on /r/LocalLLaMA but it is worth trying out, even if you have a relatively modest machine. [0] https://huggingface.co/nvidia/NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Nano-30B-A3B... [1] https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Nemotron-3-Nano-3…

It was good for like, one month. Qwen3 30b dominated for half a year before that, and GLM-4.7 Flash 30b took over the crown soon after Nemotron 3 Nano came out. There was basically no time period for it to shine.

It is still good, even if not the new hotness. But I understand your point.

It isn't as though GLM-4.7 Flash is significantly better, and honestly, I have had poor experiences with it (and yes, always the latest llama.cpp and the updated GGUFs).

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