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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

This feels like a much better feature than “they can track your realtime location from the mobile app” as implied in the article? Plus employees will have to opt in? The tracking is still gross, but limited to opt-in on office WiFi seems a lot less dramatic of a headline, especially given the main concern people have is work from home

> Plus employees will have to opt in?

I mean, that's not really how "opt-in" works for features that your company owns; you might have to "opt-in" technically but your company will probably make that a little more mandatory.

I do agree that the blog post, headline, and HN comments are as usual quite an overreaction, but this feature is pretty gross. It's also weird because the controversy/grossness-to-utility ratio seems awful, which either means that Microsoft product management has gotten as bad as everyone thinks it has or there's some future plan to make it more "robust."

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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post #11

Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

>If you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly Can't you just rename your home wifi SSID to be whatever your Work wifi is called?

I predict a lot of office wifi names with small typos used to share internet from smartphones.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Some of this could be related to laws that necessitate updated location data for emergency calling. Since a common component of Teams is Teams Phone, there can be a compliance gap. I’m sure this isn’t the whole story, but it is likely one facet: https://www.911.gov/issues/legislation-and-policy/kari-s-law...

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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post #11

Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

Should be restricted to only "in office" vs "not in office", no showing the wifi name. Also, the lack of wired network support seems odd.

IMO that's probably how the feature will work, I haven't seen any actual non-speculation/rage bait evidence to the contrary.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they need a reason anymore? Most US is at-will to work.

They don't need a reason to fire you. They need a reason to fire you and not pay unemployment benefits.

unemployment benefits are so low do they really care that much?

Unemployment benefits for me would be 3% annually of my annual salary.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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post #11

Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

This feels like a much better feature than “they can track your realtime location from the mobile app” as implied in the article? Plus employees will have to opt in? The tracking is still gross, but limited to opt-in on office WiFi seems a lot less dramatic of a headline, especially given the main concern people have is work from home

> Plus employees will have to opt in?

If a company policy says you have to opt in, not opting in means you're breaching the policy and might get fired. Entirely legal in at-will employment places, but potentially not in places with better worker protections.

Saying that, I just got announcement from my employer they will not be turning it on for now.

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