> An ongoing talent shortage requires more efficient use of engineers, and AI can help.
An ongoing desire to avoid paying engineers... FTFY
AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
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Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#72Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…
Same situation (50 last week, 2 kids) though have been unemployed for a year. Part of me thinks that, rather than taking jobs, AI is actually the only reason a lot of jobs still exist. The rest of tech is dead. Having worked in consulting a while ago, you can kind of feel it when you're approaching the point where you've implemented all the high value stuff for a client and, even though there's stuff you could do, th…
Software will ALWAYS be an attractive VC target. The economics are just too good. The profit margins are just inherently fat as fuck compared to literally anything else. Your main expense is headcount and the incremental cost of your widget is ~$0? It's literally a dream.
It's also why so much of AI is targeting software, specifically SAAS. A SaaS company with ~0 headcount driven by AI is basically 100% profit margin. A truly perfect conception of capitalism.
Meanwhile I think AI actually has a decent shot at "curing" cancer. AI-assisted radiology means screening could be come significantly cheaper, happen a lot more often, and catch cancers very early, which is extremely important as everyone knows to surviving it. The cure for cancer might actually just involve much earlier detection. But pfft what are the profit margins on _that_?
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
the wonderful modern world of "everyone must build their personal brand"
The worst thing is that it works. (As a musician) i never invested in a personal brand or taking part in the social media rat race and figured I concentrate on the art / craft over meaningless performance online. Well guess who is getting 0 gigs now because “too few followers/visibility” (or maybe my music just sucks who knows …)
To help the needle a bit (and agreeing with sibling comment): please share some example of your music here and where/how we can listen to it!
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#74Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…
I have read this same comment so many times in various forms. I know many of them are shill accounts/bots, but many are real. I think there are a few things at play that make people feel this way. Even if you're in a CRUD shop with low standards for reliability/scale/performance/efficiency, a person who isn't an experienced engineer could not make the LLM do your job. LLMs have a perfect combination of traits that ca…
I think a lot of the proliferation of AI as a self-coding agent has been driven by devs who haven’t written much meaningful code, so whatever the LLM spits out looks great to them because it runs. People don’t actually read the AI’s code unless something breaks.
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#75"in the 1920s and 1930s, to be able to drive a car you needed to understand things like spark advance, and you needed to know how to be able to refill the radiator halfway through your trip" A car still feels weirdly grounded in reality though, and the abstractions needed to understand it aren't too removed from nature (metal gets mined from rocks, forged into engine, engine blows up gasoline, radiator cools engine).…
> In the same way that driving and working on an old car feels kind of pure
I can understand working on it feeling pure, but driving it certainly isn't, considering how lower the emissions now, even for ICE cars. One of the worst driving experiences of my life was riding in my friends' Citroen 2CV. The restoration of that car was a labour of love that he did together with his dad. For me as a passenger, I was surprised just how loud it is, and how you can smell oil and gasoline in the cabin.
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#76"Most people who drive cars now couldn’t find the radiator cap if they were paid to, and that’s fine." That's not fine IMO. That is a basic bit of knowledge about a car and if you don't know where the radiator cap is you will eventually have to pay through the nose to someone who does know (and possibly be stranded somewhere). Knowing how to check and fill coolant isn't like knowing how to rebuild a transmission. It'…
Ironically, many cars don't have radiator caps, only reservoirs. Modern cars, for the most part, do not leak coolant unless there's a problem. They operate a high pressure. Most people, for their own safety, should not pop the hood of a car.
What the hell? There are plenty of reasons to pop your hood that literally anyone competent to drive should be able to do perfectly safely. Swapping your own battery. Pulling a fuse. Checking your oil, topping up your oil. Adding windshield wiper fluid. Jump starting a car. Replacing parts that are immediately available.
Not requiring one to pop the hood, but since I've almost finished the list of "things every driver should be able to do to their car": Place and operate a jack, change a tire, replace your windshield wiper blades, add air to tires (to appropriate pressure), and put gas in the damned thing.
These are basic skills that I can absolutely expect a competent, driving adult to be able to do (perhaps with a guide).
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
the wonderful modern world of "everyone must build their personal brand"
The worst thing is that it works. (As a musician) i never invested in a personal brand or taking part in the social media rat race and figured I concentrate on the art / craft over meaningless performance online. Well guess who is getting 0 gigs now because “too few followers/visibility” (or maybe my music just sucks who knows …)
seems like it depends on what your goal is. i'm guessing if you want to be a musician that makes a living in your current life, a personal brand is extremely important. if you don't mind doing it for the sake of the art and soul fulfillment and the offchance you'll be discovered posthumously then i think it doesn't matter!
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#78Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…
Weird side question, but any chance you use(d) the same name on Playstation Network?
No, xbox ecosystem with different user name.
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#79Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…
What were you doing before programming, at age 35? Different career?
Yes completely different career. Sold financial products.
Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected
#80I am very tired of seeing every random person's speculation (framed as real insight) on what's going to happen as they try to signify that they are super involved in AI and super on top of it and therefore still worthy of value and importance in the economy.
One thing I found out from my years of commenting on the internet, is as long as what you say sounds plausible and you state it with absolute conviction and authority, you can get your 15 minutes of fame as the world's foremost expert on any given topic.