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iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by jmaker »

tombert wrote: post #69
jmaker wrote: post #67

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Depends on your Linux distribution. Hibernation had also been a long standing issue last I checked, especially on laptops.

Sure, it just annoys me that people seem to have amnesia with all the bullshit associated with desktop Windows, I guess because they’re used to it. The recent updates breaking Notepad and Calculator and Outlook and the Shutdown feature are rare in that they have gotten press, but there are hundreds of other bits of bullshit associated with Windows, like the fact that Windows Update just routinely breaks your computer…

That is terrible. I’ve been out of the loop with consumer Windows for like 20 years and enterprise Windows for a decade, last time was at a .NET shop. Two years ago or so, after watching a couple Microsoft folks give their talks, I tried one of the Microsoft Surfaces at a store and got quickly frustrated with it.

What you’re describing about Windows is very reminiscent of what Pixel users describe on Reddit.

I’m totally with you, I wouldn’t use Windows voluntarily. I’m not in a position to tell whether it’s more or less ready though, just no recent experience with it.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by tombert »

jmaker wrote: post #71
tombert wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, it just annoys me that people seem to have amnesia with all the bullshit associated with desktop Windows, I guess because they’re used to it. The recent updates breaking Notepad and Calculator and Outlook and the Shutdown feature are rare in that they have gotten press, but there are hundreds of other bits of bullshit associated with Windows, like the fact that Windows Update just routinely breaks your computer…

That is terrible. I’ve been out of the loop with consumer Windows for like 20 years and enterprise Windows for a decade, last time was at a .NET shop. Two years ago or so, after watching a couple Microsoft folks give their talks, I tried one of the Microsoft Surfaces at a store and got quickly frustrated with it. What you’re describing about Windows is very reminiscent of what Pixel users describe on Reddit. I’m tota…

Yeah, if you’re comparing it to macOS, then I would broadly agree that desktop Linux is less-ready.

I do think it has improved considerably, especially on AMD hardware, and I think it’s better than Windows at this point. macOS is arguably better, but Macs are considerably more pricey, so they can be a bit difficult to recommend to people.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by dangus »

thebruce87m wrote: post #68
dangus wrote: post #66

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And you can do a search for Samsung and get a similar story: https://www.phonearena.com/news/galaxy-s24-failed-to-connect... Like I said, not to excuse them, but these issues tend to affect an incredibly small amount of people. If you have a double digit number of users on Reddit complaining for a phone that represents 7% of all US smartphone sales, that’s not a widespread bug as a percentage of userbase. Google curr…

I don’t know why you want to downplay this issue. Google should be held accountable for this. It affects multiple users over multiple models and has caused real world harm. Imagine it was Apple. Now apply the same outrage.

I’d be saying the same thing. Apple sells tens of millions of phones per year and in this hypothetical scenario a double digit number of Reddit users couldn’t call 911.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by thebruce87m »

dangus wrote: post #73
thebruce87m wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know why you want to downplay this issue. Google should be held accountable for this. It affects multiple users over multiple models and has caused real world harm. Imagine it was Apple. Now apply the same outrage.

I’d be saying the same thing. Apple sells tens of millions of phones per year and in this hypothetical scenario a double digit number of Reddit users couldn’t call 911.

This is obviously a big recurring issue which is statistically significant given the number of times that a user might call emergency services in their entire lifetime.

If the reason you want to dismiss it is because you have a pixel then you don’t have to convince me that it’s safe - you need to convince yourself.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by KetoManx64 »

estimator7292 wrote: post #59
nomel wrote: post #14

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"Just jailbreak your phone and install !" they said. I did that for a while, depending on some random guy in a forum to maintain a working image for my device. He bought a new phone, and that was the end of the updates.

I bought a brand new flagship phone for $1100, couldn't jailbreak it, then the manufacturer got bored, forced an update that bricked it, then got bored and never published an update again.

Name and shame.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by duxup »

mrandish wrote: post #7

I'm not a fan of Apple's walled garden mindset and resistance to inter-operating with other platforms, but this degree of legacy support is a case of Apple doing a good thing and deserves praise. Note: I'm not saying that Google/MSFT et al are much better than Apple, but they're not quite as bad.

Performance and hardware longevity has really been solid from Apple.

I busted my wife's old iPhone 8 out when I found it digging for other things ... still runs nice.

My android devices over the year I use for development, most just up and die or performance just degrades over time until it is unusable.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by barbs »

fouc wrote: post #17
bartread wrote: post #11

I ran a 5S that I bought in December 2013 as my primary phone all the way up to around March 2020, just as the pandemic was really winding up. The battery, after ailing for a little while, had eventually just given up. I'd gone skiing a couple of times, with the last trip being just before lockdown, and I think it was the cold exposure of the second trip that dealt the mortal blow, and it died shortly after I returne…

Just so you know, apparently it's reasonably straightforward to replace the battery of the iPhone 5s, even easier than the iPhone SE (same form factor) for whatever reason. A few years ago I bought a replacement battery kit that came with everything needed for probably something like $10 from aliexpress. I never actually got around to doing the replacement yet but maybe this update will give me the excuse to dig it u…

Curious - what makes it easier on the 5S? I've replaced the battery and screen on my SE a handful of times and from i can tell from iFixit the process to do the same thing on the 5S looks identical.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by barbs »

accrual wrote: post #31

Anyone using the original iPhone SE or the second SE? I wonder how those are fairing on their final update(s).

I'm on my 8th year of using my original iPhone SE, have replaced the battery a few times and the screen a couple of times. It's still doing what I need it to do on iOS 15, but I noticed a few big names apps have stopped supporting iOS 15 in the past year so the installed versions are the last compatible versions (e.g. the installed versions of Uber and Netflix are > 6 months old).

Performance-wise, it can stutter a bit on modern websites and sometimes in some apps, but otherwise works reasonably well. A few weeks ago I noticed it was struggling more than usual and chewing up more battery, but then I cleared up some disk space and it's been running fine.

The minimum supported iOS version for some of my must-have apps (e.g. WhatsApp, my banking app) is currently iOS 15, so I imagine when that changes I'll need to finally upgrade my phone. Feels like its days are numbered.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by com2kid »

walthamstow wrote: post #49
com2kid wrote: post #26

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I've never had a pixel phone survive through its support period. The hardware always dies first. Tbf some pixel models have proven reliable, my mom's pixel 4 lasted long enough to be out of support and then it got owned and her bank accounts got taken over. The downside of reliable HW I guess.

Counterpoint: my Pixel 3 and 5 are both still running fine. The 3 (2018) actually gets better battery life than the 5.

I managed to get 2 pixel devices in a row that have known issues of just dying. My CC company refunded one of them. :/

I also had a Nexus 5 (boot looped of course).

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by fouc »

barbs wrote: post #77
fouc wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just so you know, apparently it's reasonably straightforward to replace the battery of the iPhone 5s, even easier than the iPhone SE (same form factor) for whatever reason. A few years ago I bought a replacement battery kit that came with everything needed for probably something like $10 from aliexpress. I never actually got around to doing the replacement yet but maybe this update will give me the excuse to dig it u…

Curious - what makes it easier on the 5S? I've replaced the battery and screen on my SE a handful of times and from i can tell from iFixit the process to do the same thing on the 5S looks identical.

Oh maybe I'm wrong then, I felt like I read that the 5S was easier.
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