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Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by AceJohnny2 »

travisgriggs wrote: post #70

About 7 years ago, we deployed a “gateway/orchestration” role device in ag tech. Power draw is a big concern for us (not a lot of free power out in the middle of fields). We used an SBC from Emtrion. I remember asking my EE counterpart at the time “why not a Pi? Surely someone makes hardened versions of those?” He was skeptical and I think the aura of “toy/hobby/maker” scared him off. Fast forward. We’re getting read…

Hah! And the value of the Pi for these kinds of ~industrial applications is why there was a shortage of Pis for hobbyists.

It's funny how Raspberry Pi started out for an educational market, and accidentally revolutionized the embedded market.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by mschuster91 »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #71
travisgriggs wrote: post #70

About 7 years ago, we deployed a “gateway/orchestration” role device in ag tech. Power draw is a big concern for us (not a lot of free power out in the middle of fields). We used an SBC from Emtrion. I remember asking my EE counterpart at the time “why not a Pi? Surely someone makes hardened versions of those?” He was skeptical and I think the aura of “toy/hobby/maker” scared him off. Fast forward. We’re getting read…

Hah! And the value of the Pi for these kinds of ~industrial applications is why there was a shortage of Pis for hobbyists. It's funny how Raspberry Pi started out for an educational market, and accidentally revolutionized the embedded market.

Even funnier is the history. IIRC, the very first Raspberry Pi was an idea based on a bunch of stock of shitty SoCs for set-top boxes that Broadcom couldn't get sold, so Eben Upton got these for cheap for the foundation he and a few others had started to promote computer literacy.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by mappu »

tzs wrote: post #63
tomcam wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very cool. I feel like Lightsail performed quite well. Feels like a local optimum of some kind. Mind specifying the tier?

It says "512 MB RAM, 1 vCPU, 20 GV SSD" and "General Purpose". It was whatever was the cheapest when I made it. Looking at the instance creation page it looks like it is no longer available. The cheapest now has 2 vCPU and the same other specs. If anyone would like to run it on something else for comparison I've put it Pastebin [1]. Normally, a script converts the puzzle into a header file that describes the puzzle i…

Fun!

    126 Intel N5105, gcc -O2 (Debian)
     98 Neoverse N1, gcc -O2 (Debian) - Oracle Cloud
     63 Snapdragon 8gen3, clang -O2 (Termux) - Xiaomi 14
     59 Ryzen 7600, clang -O2 (MSYS2 / Windows 11)
     48 Ryzen 7600, clang -O2 (Debian)
     45 Ryzen 7600, gcc -O2 (Debian)

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by drnick1 »

chorlton2080 wrote: post #10

Got as far as the cookie request, and this is one of those without a "Reject All" option where you have to scroll through dozens of options to deselect. I went no further.

Sounds like you could use uBlock and/or a DNS server with Hagezi Pro++.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by drnick1 »

zahlman wrote: post #41
chorlton2080 wrote: post #10

Got as far as the cookie request, and this is one of those without a "Reject All" option where you have to scroll through dozens of options to deselect. I went no further.

I see no cookie request using NoScript.

Same thing here I don't see any cookie request thanks to uBlock with the most restrictive settings.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by drnick1 »

mooracle wrote: post #68

Pi 5 pricing gets harder to justify when you add up the extras. 8GB board + active cooler + good SD card + case + power supply = $150+ easily. Used 1L mini PCs (EliteDesk, ThinkCentre Tiny, etc.) with i5-8400T/8GB/256GB go for $50-100 on eBay. You get x86 compatibility, NVMe support, real Ethernet, and no thermal throttling. Running an EliteDesk 800 G4 with 2.5GbE adapter and 2x2TB NVMe for home server duties. Draws…

This 100%; if you need GPIO use a USB adapter.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by zahlman »

encom wrote: post #51
zahlman wrote: post #40

> The Pi 2 managed to open the browser and actually started playing back a 1080P video, which was surprising, but playback was terrible. A Youtube tab, web browser modern enough for YouTube, and OS modern enough for that web browser, all fit in 1GB of memory? Wow.

Worth noting: A Pi 1 will decode 1080p h264 video flawlessly. I used one as a media center for a long time, running OpenELEC (now LibreELEC). Moving around the UI was a bit sluggish, but video playback was smooth. YouTube is an absolute clown show. It's so bad that I'm certain Google devs are actively making it terrible on purpose. I use Newpipe on an older (but not that old) tablet. Whenever Google breaks Newpipe an…

... Pis have hardware video decoders? I thought they were just fairly generic CPUs.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by ThatPlayer »

andai wrote: post #55
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #23

I think the Pi 3 range is a sweet spot for low cost, low power draw, decent-enough CPU. Newer models draw increasingly more power; going from 1.4W to 2.8W may not seem like much, but that's half your battery life. There's a few differences in Raspberry Pi 3 versions that may lead you to buy one or the other: - The Pi 3B has 10/100 Ethernet, 802.11n (single-band) WiFi, Bluetooth 4.1. Power idled at 1.4W and peaked at…

Is the $25 price used? I'm finding the 3, 4 and 5 cost almost the same from web shops (for the 1GB version).

The 3A+ is a different form factor than the 3B(+), 4s, and 5s. And only comes in 512 MB. https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-a-...

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by ThatPlayer »

zahlman wrote: post #77
encom wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth noting: A Pi 1 will decode 1080p h264 video flawlessly. I used one as a media center for a long time, running OpenELEC (now LibreELEC). Moving around the UI was a bit sluggish, but video playback was smooth. YouTube is an absolute clown show. It's so bad that I'm certain Google devs are actively making it terrible on purpose. I use Newpipe on an older (but not that old) tablet. Whenever Google breaks Newpipe an…

... Pis have hardware video decoders? I thought they were just fairly generic CPUs.

The original CPU was designed for set top boxes by Broadcom.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Post by fc417fc802 »

3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #38
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did unplug my GPU to save 30 watts, but... 2 watts is equivalent to driving a Prius Prime 0.155 miles per day on battery power. So there's that

That seems an impossible range. This site[0] claims a Prius Prime XSE gets 1.42 miles/kWh. Or (1.42 miles /1000Wh)*2 = 0.0028 miles. Which is ~14 feet, which is significantly more in line with my expectations (though still high) [0] https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-toyota-prius-prime-x...

I thought the same thing but then I realized that it's 48 W hr for a full day.
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