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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by derekja »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #58
bad_haircut72 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is making you do this, they're not even charging you for it. Comparing to a company worth billions is disingenious.

Those companies worth billions like GM and Tesla perform extensive testing to prove to regulators their software isn't going to kill people and does not pose an unacceptable risk to other drivers on the road. Do you get to sidestep all that if you post your code to GitHub?

Yup, because you get to be personally responsible for any outcomes just like you would be if you were driving without ai assistance. If you aren’t comfortable building and testing an open source project then it isn’t for you.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by sathackr »

nashashmi wrote: post #37

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

It's infinitely better than HDA2 at tracking and maintaining lanes.

HDA2 cuts out if there is a break in lines more than 50ft or so.

Openpilot can track the slightest of roads, even able to follow off-road the tracks in grass from a leading car.

It does basically everything HDA2 does and then some, and does it much better.

It has a driver-monitoring camera that you control, that monitors for inattentiveness which is much more effective than simple wheel-torque based sensors.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by chrischen »

pkaeding wrote: post #60
nashashmi wrote: post #37

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

Maybe this doesn't beep at you if you take your hands off the wheel? And people think that is a good thing?

It beeps at you if you stop paying attention, which is superior. Hands on wheel is an arbitrary design decision more likely to placate what a layman would think is necessary to ensure safe AI steering.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by CamperBob2 »

smallerize wrote: post #54
androiddrew wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know george hotz was the CEO. Who is it now?

They don't have a single person listed as CEO. It was Ricardo Biasini for a while. https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/02/george-hotz-aka-geohot-is-... More recently he was part of DOGE. https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/riccardo-biasini-doge-ag... Maybe they meant Harald Schäfer (CTO), Alex Matzner (COO), or Adeeb Shihadeh (CPO).

More recently he was part of DOGE

Maximum ooofage

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by subroutine »

bad_haircut72 wrote: post #49
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #47

I read at least one thread per day criticizing Tesla self-driving (which has hundreds of highly-paid engineers working on it) as unreliable vaporware, meanwhile I'm supposed to hack my car with some code off a GitHub repo? I'll be adding this to my list of 101 creative ways to die, behind basement apartment in Venice, Italy.

Nobody is making you do this, they're not even charging you for it. Comparing to a company worth billions is disingenious.

True. But what about the guy next to me on the 405? Or the guy driving towards me on Camino Real? They are kinda "making me do this".

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by csto12 »

smallerize wrote: post #56
rvz wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He (geohot) is still the President of Comma.ai and still owns the majority of the company.

His LinkedIn says he stopped being president in November. https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-hotz-b3866476 I haven't seen any other news about it.

Im shocked Hotz has a LinkedIn. That seems antithetical to his entire existence.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by UnlockedSecrets »

pkaeding wrote: post #60
nashashmi wrote: post #37

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

Maybe this doesn't beep at you if you take your hands off the wheel? And people think that is a good thing?

My car judges it if I have put in any manual inputs over the past 10 or so seconds then it starts complaining. Which is seemingly reasonable however there's plenty of nearly perfect straight aways where there's nothing to do for it or me.

It would be nice if it had a system where if it isn't doing anything, it doesn't think I'm not doing anything either.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by positron26 »

t1234s wrote: post #69

OEMs would be smart to donate money to this

Anyone who hates driving, being stuck in traffic, anyone who benefits when the cost of transportation is cheaper, anyone who hates insurance, all of society benefits. In some parallel universe self driving and fusion are both crash projects receiving well administered social scale funding. Lots of things are. It is somewhat miraculous that we don't all live in this conclusion, realizing these huge value creation opportunities by investing aggressively in the upstream tech. There is a horse I would very much like to drown for only a few million USD.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by AngryData »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #58
bad_haircut72 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is making you do this, they're not even charging you for it. Comparing to a company worth billions is disingenious.

Those companies worth billions like GM and Tesla perform extensive testing to prove to regulators their software isn't going to kill people and does not pose an unacceptable risk to other drivers on the road. Do you get to sidestep all that if you post your code to GitHub?

Why not? You are free to modify your vehicle in almost anyway you want as a consumer. Should someone putting some rain shields on their window require licensing and government testing for it because it might break off? Should generic brake pads or tierod ends require independent government testing or approval to be purchased and used?

Regulations don't exist to save people from their own stupid mistakes, they exist to prevent systemic abuses and dangers to the public in the pursuit of profit. And we already know from endless examples that corporations will knowingly let people die if their decision will increase profit margins. Not to mention the public doesn't have the ability to properly test or verify corporate designed and sold devices. Unless corporations provide all documentation related to the design and materials and code used, they should have special restrictions and regulations beyond what the average person does.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by omoikane »

bad_haircut72 wrote: post #49
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #47

I read at least one thread per day criticizing Tesla self-driving (which has hundreds of highly-paid engineers working on it) as unreliable vaporware, meanwhile I'm supposed to hack my car with some code off a GitHub repo? I'll be adding this to my list of 101 creative ways to die, behind basement apartment in Venice, Italy.

Nobody is making you do this, they're not even charging you for it. Comparing to a company worth billions is disingenious.

> they're not even charging you for it

The github repo says to use openpilot, you will need to buy a comma device[1], which they sell at $999.[2]

[1] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot?tab=readme-ov-file#usin...

[2] https://comma.ai/shop/comma-four

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