Finally...a dedicated app to bitch at people.
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A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
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Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
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It's a cruiseship. Your family are at the nearest bar. Just get off your ass and go and give them the message.
This seems a bit reductive. You could use this argument for any small town
It was how things were for a long time, and in a lot of ways it was better.
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#73We did an evaluation on Bitchat as we had also built our own and needed to choose whether to continue with it or look at Bitchat instead. In the end, after the evaluation we chose Bitchat. See more here https://updates.techforpalestine.org/bitchat-for-gaza-messag...
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any situation when mobile internet cannot be used. That is not only protests, but also legal gatherings, i.e. street concerts, or places where mobile coverage is poor in general.
> That is not only protests, but also legal gatherings[...] Oops! You (unintentionally?) make it sound like protests are illegal.
They are.
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose the community around a product is also a reason to bring up an influential character's character. You can't fork the community, only fragment it. "I don't want to join a club with that guy in it" is a time when an ad hominem becomes a valid argument.
It is a self-fullfilling prophecy. If the community would adopt the style of not juding the person but only the product, that community would not care for that person. So the "I don't want to join a club with purpose X because of guy Y" leads to the problem that you are describing. If everybody would just "I join the club because of its purpose X achieved by means Z", that community split won't happen.
Yes, if the community would not be influenced by the guy, he wouldn't be influential.
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#76Could someone please explain in what situation do you use a BlueTooth messaging app? Like, even BT5 range won't exceed 400 meters. What good is this? You're not going to send images to journalists from protests with it (you'd do wisely to keep it in airplane mode until you get home and then you'd upload them to their securedrop or whatever), and you don't need off-band security to let the kids know it's dinner time.
Consider if you live in Gaza. Israel has destroyed all the telecoms equipment across the Gaza strip (and everything else). You were ordered to leave your home by Israeli soldiers, but now the school you're sheltering in is being bombed. You may need to leave, but you believe there may be sniper drones outside.
- You want to check in with people around you about what to do - You want to check on the health of your family, from whom you were separated
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#77Could someone please explain in what situation do you use a BlueTooth messaging app? Like, even BT5 range won't exceed 400 meters. What good is this? You're not going to send images to journalists from protests with it (you'd do wisely to keep it in airplane mode until you get home and then you'd upload them to their securedrop or whatever), and you don't need off-band security to let the kids know it's dinner time.
One of these bluetooth messaging app was made by a developer who was on a cruise ship with family, and the Internet over satellite costs an arm and leg. So he wrote an app to communicate with his families over bluetooth. Also why would one want to have the data go over some servers thousands miles away when the device is right next to you? Seems like bluetooth is the perfect way to communicate for devices that are cl…
Yeah I can imagine a jam-packed cruise ship might be useful provided the signal propagates from deck to another (unlikely), but it's quite a niché use case.
>Also why would one want to have the data go over some servers thousands miles away when the device is right next to you?
Why would that matter? Use Signal to protect the content, or use Cwtch to protect content and metadata. If you need to exchange secret communications that mustn't go through some server, why not discuss f2f with no phones around? You'd also eliminate attack vectors where your (chances are, Chinese Android) device spies on you, as well as anyone who has compromised it to read messages from screen.
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is a disease of modern (social) media and personal branding. People also now broadly think that an ad-hominem (attacking the person behind an argument, not the argument) is good argumentative style. I don't know about Jack Dorsey other then he founded twitter, and I don't care much about him. If there is a product, I will evaluate that product by my catalogue, not whether I like or dislike a person.
But the person controls the product, and the product will continue to develop, so the person's character is relevant to the quality of the product.
No they don't, it's permissionless technology. Read the web site.
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a cruiseship. Your family are at the nearest bar. Just get off your ass and go and give them the message.
I've checked, they're not there. Now what?
Tell them to install bitchat. How to deliver the message to them is left as an exercise to the reader.
Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth
#80Could someone please explain in what situation do you use a BlueTooth messaging app? Like, even BT5 range won't exceed 400 meters. What good is this? You're not going to send images to journalists from protests with it (you'd do wisely to keep it in airplane mode until you get home and then you'd upload them to their securedrop or whatever), and you don't need off-band security to let the kids know it's dinner time.
In theory if as many people use bitchat as used whatsapp somewhere like central london, everyone actually could communicate in a fully decentralised manner - you're frequently in bluetooth range of other people's phones just walking around or even sat in your house.
Would that actually happen? No, but it's an interesting thought experiment