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Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Despite all the talk about military action, the fact is that Europe is one of the main trading partners of the US and holds a substantial share of US debt. Any invasion would be economic suicide, and I think even Trump realizes this.

I'm not convinced trump cares about economic suicide at all

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Unfortunately our federal government is more than powerful enough to take Greenland and mow us all down. I am genuinely sorry that Atlanticism came down to a few hundred thousand of the dumbest Midwesterners we could find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness You can still call your congressman, senator, local political, councilman, or someone else, spend 30 mins watching a demonstration, donate $10 to Amnesty, tell a random dude in fatigues "grateful for your service but please don't invade Greenland". The more people that do these kind of things the harder it gets for the Fascists to brand those that do as left-wing ter…

I’ve been tear gassed. I’m out here trying. I just know it’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets better. The regime is losing its grip and the only way out that fascists know is to escalate the violence.

Invading Greenland is a symptom of us on the ground fighting back. It’s to prove to Americans that we’re now isolated.

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As a side note. Beware when exporting to the USA using UPS. Especially when having the receiver pay for imports and taxes. UPS does not enforce payment. They will hand out the package before receiving the taxes and tolls. Then, they force you, the exporter, to pay, since you’ve agreed to it by accepting their terms and conditions. I’ve learnt this the hard way.

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I would so much rather use arm twisting in background political discourse to open and public threats of military invasion on a nato ally. Those two are really not even comparable

The end result is the same - we have committed for 15 years now that we are pivoting East. And given some of the recent announcements in both the US and China, I think 2028 is going to be a very bleak year.

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> In one scenario nato breaks up...

It doesn't matter if we are in a US-China war WHICH HAS BEEN MY AND EVERY NATSEC STAFFER'S POINT SINCE 2009.

We do not care about Russia - you guys can easily handle them yourselves. On the other hand, you guys cannot support us in Kinmen, Luzon, Yonaguni, or Gageodo.

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We've committed to leave NATO by 2027 [0] to rebalance in Asia. We don't care about Russia. We are worried about China. > Which country is currently earning the most profits by selling weapons within NATO? It doesn't matter, because no European nation can help us in Kinmen, Luzon, Yonaguni, or Gageodo. Both us and China are inching towards a Cuban Missile Crisis level standoff in 2028 after the Taiwanese (January 202…

The linked article says the US has threatened to reduce its support, not committed to leave. Things are bad enough without exaggerating like this.

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Unfortunately our federal government is more than powerful enough to take Greenland and mow us all down. I am genuinely sorry that Atlanticism came down to a few hundred thousand of the dumbest Midwesterners we could find.

Don't the Americans have the second amendment to save themselves from their government?

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Let's hope you Americans will vote for the right party in the upcoming midterms. And let's hope you will even get the chance to do so.

Part of the reason we’re in this mess is that Americans bristle at getting told which is the “right” party to vote for by internationals, the media, existing politicians, institutions…

That's of course a totally valid reason to destroy your institutions, international reputation, and of course the lives of many poor people in your country. Makes sense /s

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Nah. He’s an asset of his American handlers. Stephen Miller is the person driving this Greenland thing (but what are his reasons?), Trump himself would’ve forgotten that the whole island exists if not reminded about it. Now, of course, it has also become an ego and legacy thing for Trump and he can’t walk back without being somehow convinced that he won even without getting Greenland. But that’s going to be almost im…

Miller is incredibly xenophobic and power hungry. He isn't dumb. He and Vance are both power hungry.

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Americans, your Mad King is putting us all in grave danger. Would you please do something about it?

We are trying. Please realize that the second largest conflict (based on spending) in the world right now, behind the Russian invasion of Ukraine, is DJT’s ICE attacks on the US. That is how much he is spending to attack his own country. More than Israel spends to occupy Palestinians.

Sadly, if you look at polling, none of this is remotely unpopular with US Republican voters. Our country’s union is hanging on by tattered threads.

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