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Re: STFU

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Post by ddtaylor »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #41

> me being me, didn't have the courage to speak up I hardly imagine a situation where speaking up is less "couraging" than using such tool to mock annoying person.

I imagine they keep their headphones on or play it off as the device doing it on it's own. The "work" of having to solve the problem hasn't gone away, but it has been translated from social into lying by omission and performative contradiction.

EDIT: By performative contradiction I mean doing the thing the person is doing to demonstrate the contradiction.

Re: STFU

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Post by lbrito »

user- wrote: post #35
connorgurney wrote: post #31

I might be in a minority saying this - and particularly so here on HN - but I struggle to understand why you'd be willing to use a tool like this, as OP did, but not to politely ask someone to keep it down?

I mean, he took a picture of the guy posted it on his twitter calling him a 'fat uncle'. I don't think he cares about being polite.

Is "fat uncle" a slang I don't know about?

Re: STFU

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Post by groby_b »

connorgurney wrote: post #58
IgorPartola wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because social anxiety, typically. “What if the person tells me to fuck off? What if they make a scene of it?” Especially if six years ago you are the person who was in your teenage years, chances are your social skills are not what they could be if you didn’t spend a year in lockdowns. Conversely, if you are the kind of person able to come up to a stranger and ask them (politely and respectfully!) to change what the…

I follow that, and it's something I've struggled with in the past, but doesn't this sort of solution make them more likely to tell you to fuck off or to make a scene, rather than less?

What are they going to make a scene about? You playing audio loudly in a public space? They kind of ran out of legs to stand on a while ago.

Re: STFU

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Post by QuantumNomad_ »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #2

What's old is new again! https://www.cbsnews.com/news/japanese-researchers-make-speec...

> In general, human speech is jammed by giving back to the speakers their own utterances at a delay of a few hundred milliseconds

That’s what I seemed to remember also.

I think 2 seconds like in the OP link is too long delay to work as actual jamming.

Re: STFU

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Post by pixl97 »

barbazoo wrote: post #38
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

> Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Maybe they don't know of or don't have access to bone conducting earphones. Whatever they're listening to, that way they'd also still hear their environment.

Yea, with you on that one. Headphones are great at the house where I have a controlled environment. When I'm out and listening to things I'll typically only use one at a time because it's easy to miss very important, possibly deadly things.

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Post by olyjohn »

tristor wrote: post #65
dylan604 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you are a crank, but you are not alone. Either way, we should at least acknowledge the crankiness. Not everyone owns headphones. Some people might have received the speaker as a gift or decided on the speaker instead of headphones. How people spend their time outdoors is not up to you or I to decide. If they want to listen to music from a bluetooth speaker, that's what they want to do. There's a lot more outdoor…

> Not everyone owns headphones. Some people might have received the speaker as a gift or decided on the speaker instead of headphones. How people spend their time outdoors is not up to you or I to decide. If they want to listen to music from a bluetooth speaker, that's what they want to do. There's a lot more outdoors for you to use as well so rather that stewing, just find more outdoors. Especially on trails. Just k…

It's simple. You do you, but don't bother other people. That's all there is to it.

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Post by ecshafer »

connorgurney wrote: post #31

I might be in a minority saying this - and particularly so here on HN - but I struggle to understand why you'd be willing to use a tool like this, as OP did, but not to politely ask someone to keep it down?

I have seen fights break out in the subway over people being loud. People playing loud music in public often seem to be the types to be looking for trouble, they want someone to tell them to turn it down, so they can say no and escalate. In a lot of cities this is a big risk.

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Post by simonbw »

connorgurney wrote: post #58
IgorPartola wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because social anxiety, typically. “What if the person tells me to fuck off? What if they make a scene of it?” Especially if six years ago you are the person who was in your teenage years, chances are your social skills are not what they could be if you didn’t spend a year in lockdowns. Conversely, if you are the kind of person able to come up to a stranger and ask them (politely and respectfully!) to change what the…

I follow that, and it's something I've struggled with in the past, but doesn't this sort of solution make them more likely to tell you to fuck off or to make a scene, rather than less?

It seems harder to justify telling someone to fuck off for doing literally the exact same thing you're currently doing.

Re: STFU

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Post by etc-hosts »

dylan604 wrote: post #45
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

Yes, you are a crank, but you are not alone. Either way, we should at least acknowledge the crankiness. Not everyone owns headphones. Some people might have received the speaker as a gift or decided on the speaker instead of headphones. How people spend their time outdoors is not up to you or I to decide. If they want to listen to music from a bluetooth speaker, that's what they want to do. There's a lot more outdoor…

Often when I encounter a person loudly listening to music or videos on their phone in a cafe, it's because they are completely unaware of how loud they are or they obviously have some challenging psychological issues ( I live in SF ).

I have a lot of wired headphones I got off of Temu, I just give them a pair.

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