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Humm no. OVH is French, OVH US is not, both are two different subsidiaries. In fact, you cannot order OVH US infrastructures with a European OVH account, you need to create a US account.
So essentially like AWS' European setup?
Opening the AWS European Sovereign Cloud
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Re: Opening the AWS European Sovereign Cloud
#72It's AWS. Would it not still be subject to the CLOUD act? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act Seems like a lot of work to still have data that can be exfiltrated by the US.
The point of setting it up as a German legal entity with US AWS having no special access is to avoid that. All the relevant part of the CLOUD Act does is make it so when a US legal entity is asked to provide data that it controls it doesn't matter where it has stored that data. For example suppose I run an online forum. I decide to archive some records to cloud storage and remove my local copies. I archive some of th…
Its really not that different from China. Every American will always cooperate like a good little patriot. I don't even blame them for it that is how they are brought up.
Re: Opening the AWS European Sovereign Cloud
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Correct, this is meaningless. It's purely to provide a facade for companies and countries who are still fully in bed with US big tech, so they have something to point at and can delay the inevitable for longer. Another goal with this is to muddy the waters on the word "sovereign" in relation to tech e.g. "cloud". This is a big reason why they've chosen this exact name. Now every discussion regarding it is more prone…
So it's sovereign in the sense that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.
Re: Opening the AWS European Sovereign Cloud
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On the list of the things I doubt nowadays, an Amazon or Amazon subsidiary CEO going to jail is way up at the top. They’ll get a national security letter for sure, but no one’s going to jail.
You don't get to be the size of amazon and not be completely cooperative with the three letter agencies. Thinking Amazon is going to be some sort of resistance is just incredibly naive. They are an extension of US power, not an independent entity.
Re: Opening the AWS European Sovereign Cloud
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point of setting it up as a German legal entity with US AWS having no special access is to avoid that. All the relevant part of the CLOUD Act does is make it so when a US legal entity is asked to provide data that it controls it doesn't matter where it has stored that data. For example suppose I run an online forum. I decide to archive some records to cloud storage and remove my local copies. I archive some of th…
Ofcourse the real issue that every American is a potential CIA spy. We know this from history. Its really not that different from China. Every American will always cooperate like a good little patriot. I don't even blame them for it that is how they are brought up.
Re: Opening the AWS European Sovereign Cloud
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct, this is meaningless. It's purely to provide a facade for companies and countries who are still fully in bed with US big tech, so they have something to point at and can delay the inevitable for longer. Another goal with this is to muddy the waters on the word "sovereign" in relation to tech e.g. "cloud". This is a big reason why they've chosen this exact name. Now every discussion regarding it is more prone…
So it's sovereign in the sense that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.