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Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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No, just blast the hell out of the ISM bands on which they operate. This seem certainly feasible for a military apparatus the size of the US.

I'm sure everybody's going to stay on ISM bands to remain compliant with government regulations while being attacked by the government.

This deserves a /s

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The military can very easily find and eliminate repeaters very quickly and almost certainly would.

I don't think it's going to be military killing a Americans. As of now it more looks like federal government. Nevertheless, sure, in the rural areas, but less so in the cities, reflections and bending of the waves make it much harder, and a single repeater with solar panel and battery could plausibly be made under $50.

They are being made. I have a four node network already in my suburb. There is a software project that is written in Python that essentially turns lorawan nodes into BBSs similar to briar.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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What's the definition of a well-ordered militia? A bunch of farmers that go shooting together?

A bunch of farmers that go shooting drunk. /s Seriously though, everyone back in the 1700s realized that all Americans were American. I'm not sure that's true any more.

> Seriously though, everyone back in the 1700s realized that all Americans were American. I'm not sure that's true any more.

What was an American in the 1700s? A person born in America?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Perhaps Americans should start preparing with Meshtastic / Meshcore, just in case....... ..,..the Emperor seems hellbent on bringing martial law into effect.

The military can very easily find and eliminate repeaters very quickly and almost certainly would.

It would be futile. It's a big country full of 340,000,000 people.

Great way to waste resources though.

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Here's a funny example of making it harder to find: https://youtu.be/W_F4rEaRduk?t=178

Triangulation is damn easy. If the US can put on bomb on a suspect satellite phone user back in the 2000's (and they did!), they can certainly send a bomb on that today. Sat phones during the second gulf war (maybe even the first) became a liability. The transmission lit them up like a god damn beacon saying, "Bomb goes here!".

Good luck if your mesh network is on 2.4/5/6ghz.

It'll blend in with background radiation from home routers.

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Then get more? Sounds like a fantastic way to waste military resources. I have no clue why this mythical US military might and efficiency idea persists after so many failed interventions.

No, just blast the hell out of the ISM bands on which they operate. This seem certainly feasible for a military apparatus the size of the US.

The economic impact of that would be massive re: business operational impact.

Directional radios would still win out on p2p links.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Perhaps Americans should start preparing with Meshtastic / Meshcore, just in case....... ..,..the Emperor seems hellbent on bringing martial law into effect.

The military can very easily find and eliminate repeaters very quickly and almost certainly would.

They're incredibly easy to build and even disguise as lawn ornaments as Benn Jordan showed in a recent video. When it costs us less money and time to build them than it costs the gov't to find/destroy them it's a worthy investment

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I looked a bit into meshtastic and was told that if a node was physically compromised then messages could be intercepted. That cant be right, right?

Why bother? Just jam the fucking hell out of it. Most critical infrastructure is not on the ISM bands.

A lot of things are.

You could theoretically even shut down airplane printers in the cockpit if the jamming was strong enough.

You'd be surprised the things that are tied to ism wifi and bluetooth

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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I'm curious about the iOS situation

Unfortunately, due to safety reasons Apple cannot allow you to leave the walled garden, it is only in your own best interest. All communication services on our iOS devices require at least one US-based NSA-integrated middleman. /s

Don’t forget the horror stories of people relying on iCloud to have all their personal life there only to get locked out for silly reasons.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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What about Jack Dorsey's Bitchat . Could be useful in india (especially Kashmir) where govt shut down internet during protest

Dude. Back in 2014 when briar or something similar came up, we found the app.needed to signed in "online" first then it could be used offline. There were apps used in 2019 but it wasnt enough. The government "banned" 14 appps including element "because use by terrorists" meant anyone using element after the ban got a loud knock on the door by the stazi with 100-300 personnel, fully ready to engage in battle. Have see…

Wait really? Was this only in Kashmir? I've had Element on my laptop for years.
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