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Post by synctext »

pyre wrote: post #51
Grepsy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If SuprNova did this 9 years ago it makes me wonder what went wrong there what couldn't go wrong with the PirateBay today?

According the Wikipedia, Suprnova shutdown due to legal threats, but never was taken to court. Basically, they just caved to the pressure. On the other hand, ThePirateBay has survived police raids and criminal proceedings. Aside from that, it doesn't sound like SuprNova's setup was quite as intricate as this. I think that the post above was suggesting that the "caching border router + encrypted VPN" setup was what Su…

Indeed, Suprnova shutdown due to legal proceedings. Real jailtime is now coming to Piratebay founders, they are even on record as begging for reduced jailtime, after the verdict.

It's simple: the exist node in both Tor and Piratebay has all the legal exposure. That server/caching router/proxy could become impossible to host anywhere. Move it to USA? Expect 1 hour of uptime:-) Russia? Expect 10seconds page load times.

Any experience hosting people out there? Are Sweden and The Netherlands the only few-questions-asked options on town?

Re: The Pirate Bay in the cloud

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Post by mbq »

elliotanderson wrote: post #68
mbq wrote: post #47

Aren't the cloud providers capable of simply hibernating a VM on their machine to get VM's RAM contents and salvage all the config and keys/passwords/network topology info they want from this dump?

Only if they get to them within 8 hours, per the TorrentFreak article - after which they shut down and require an encryption key to restart. Add in any level of geographic distribution and it would take more than 8 hours to find, subpoena and confiscate rendering that technique useless.

I was rather thinking about an over-cautious (or over-curious) cloud provider that would more or less accidentally make a persistent copy of TPB machine's RAM. This is obviously quite an unlikely scenario, but still possible.
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