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Verizon outages reported across U.S.
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#72For those who weren't aware: Verizon got a new CEO late last year and laid off 15% of the workforce (15,000 people). This included people working in network, IT and cyber security.
If you’ve got 100k people to run something that should run essentially on autopilot, you’ve got much deeper problems where merely laying off selected chunks of people will no longer help. The whole company is rotten and the only way is to start from scratch and not make the mistakes that led you to accumulate 100k people. I can't even begin to imagine what those 100k people actually do. For starters, none of the telc…
Telco infra runs on autopilot?
Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.
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#74For those who weren't aware: Verizon got a new CEO late last year and laid off 15% of the workforce (15,000 people). This included people working in network, IT and cyber security.
Is there a substantive connection? Like all the doom and gloom after the Twitter layoffs predicting the site would implode and go permanently offline "within a month" which...never happened. It's also ironic in the sense it implies the indignant people were so bad at their jobs they designed and built a system so fragile it would collapse without constant intervention from thousands of individuals. You do realize it'…
This is unrealistic and seems to be biased by some kind of broad un-focused hostility. Yes, maybe they were overstaffed. But it's reasonable to suspect that leadership overcut, given the current climate and the number being 15,000. Your characterization of Twitter predictions relies on cherry-picking and ignores the actual impacts, and there's no evidence that the system goes down without "constant" intervention from "thousands". Your tone also implies that large, complex systems, even if designed well, don't normally require a lot of maintenance from many people.
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#75i know alot are joking / sarcastic about its a cyber attack- that said, Wouldn't it make more sense that whenever there is a "cyber attack" its more likely it would only affect one provider? ie, each has to have different systems / security postures ect, such that a non-public vuln useful to attack Verizon would likely not be exploitable/exposed at AT&T (or vise versa)?
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of these times they will be right and you will never hear the end of the time they were first to recognize the start of a cyberattack.
Your post reflects another online observation. With the rise of online sports books, this sort of predictive doomerism has flooded almost every team's online comment section. It no longer feel like fandom or community in the same way. Just lots of voices that will be glad to say, "I told you so," in the loss and crickets with the W. Wish there was some accountability mechanism for all the negative noise broadcasted i…
In general, whats the expected cost of being loudly, obviously, publicly and obnoxiously wrong?
Keep in mind who the President is.
Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.
#77For those who weren't aware: Verizon got a new CEO late last year and laid off 15% of the workforce (15,000 people). This included people working in network, IT and cyber security.
If you’ve got 100k people to run something that should run essentially on autopilot, you’ve got much deeper problems where merely laying off selected chunks of people will no longer help. The whole company is rotten and the only way is to start from scratch and not make the mistakes that led you to accumulate 100k people. I can't even begin to imagine what those 100k people actually do. For starters, none of the telc…
The problem with being a nationwide ISP - and Verizon runs mobile phones, fiber and all kinds of other stuff - is that you need lots of hands across the country. A lot of stuff can be done remotely and with automation, but often enough you still need actual physical hands on site, and you can't just say "eh, we'll come around tomorrow, we can't make it there faster".
Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’ve got 100k people to run something that should run essentially on autopilot, you’ve got much deeper problems where merely laying off selected chunks of people will no longer help. The whole company is rotten and the only way is to start from scratch and not make the mistakes that led you to accumulate 100k people. I can't even begin to imagine what those 100k people actually do. For starters, none of the telc…
Telco infra runs on autopilot?
This is really taking the whole "I could build Dropbox in a weekend" style comments to a new level.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’ve got 100k people to run something that should run essentially on autopilot, you’ve got much deeper problems where merely laying off selected chunks of people will no longer help. The whole company is rotten and the only way is to start from scratch and not make the mistakes that led you to accumulate 100k people. I can't even begin to imagine what those 100k people actually do. For starters, none of the telc…
Telco infra runs on autopilot?
Almost; you need maintenance and monitoring but that doesn't take anywhere near 100k people - assuming they even use their own headcount for this instead of just outsourcing maintenance to their equipment vendor.
Big Tech companies operate much more complex systems (for starters, they actually build greenfield stuff instead of buying ready-made equipment from a vendor and plugging it in) and have way less headcount.