BYD's cheapest electric cars to have Lidar self-driving tech

Post by quietsegfault » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:47 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #53

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #5

Lidars come down in price ~40x. https://cleantechnica.com/2025/03/20/lidars-wicked-cost-drop... Meanwhile visible light based tech is going up in price due to competing with ai on the extra gpu need while lidar gets the range/depth side of things for free. Ideally cars use both but if you had to choose one or the other for cost you’d be insane to choose vision over lidar. Musk made an ill timed decision to go vision…

I wonder if ubiquity doesn’t effect the lidar performance? Wouldn’t the systems see each other’s laser projections if there are multiple cars close to each other? Also is LIDAR immune to other issues like bright 3rd party sources? At least on iPhone I’m having faceid performance degradation. Also, I suspect other issues like thin or transparent objects net being detected. With vision you rely on external source or fl…

Post by pityJuke » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:48 PM UTC

aetherspawn wrote: post #32

cyberax wrote: post #16

Keep in mind, that $25k AUD is just $16600. And for that price, you're getting a real car with driver-assist features and a reasonable crash safety rating. The US car manufacturers are cooked.

I heard from a friend he paid around $12k AUD for the cheapest new ICE car, Holden brand, which I guess proves the west can compete if they try? Edit: Holden Spark.

Post by senti_sentient » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:56 PM UTC

protastus wrote: post #50

Tempest1981 wrote: post #24

The roof mount seems very practical, but it's a look that may turn off some buyers... buyers who care about looks. For SUVs, maybe it could be blended in with a roof air scoop, like on some off-road trucks. Or a light bar. Where is the LiDAR on the Atto 1? In the grille? How much worse is the field of view?

My impression is that Chinese consumer products haven't been hijacked by the "design above everything else" mindset. The priority is to make things work at scale. American product design is obsessed with appearance and finish. Products end up costing 3 times more and functionality is degraded.

Post by expedition32 » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 11:20 PM UTC

cyberax wrote: post #60

g947o wrote: post #36

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US manufacturers are going to be ok as long as there are policies banning foreign cars and there are tariffs, which is going to be true for a long time. And somehow US consumers feel comfortable paying more for worse cars.

This can't last indefinitely. At some point, the contrast between the US-made and Chinese-made cars will become too great to ignore. We saw that during the 80-s, with the Japanese cars.

Post by Rebelgecko » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 11:25 PM UTC

iknowstuff wrote: post #14

Rebelgecko wrote: post #7

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By what metric? In terms of deaths, injuries, and crashes per mile their Full Self Driving at least an order of magnitude behind Waymo

Waymo is not an adas. There’s nothing close to FSD 14 abilities out there for consumers. And your stats comparing to waymo are made up and debunked in the very reddit thread they came from