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HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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I want less microsoft/copilot in things, not more. I don't know who this is for.

I don't understand the advantages of this over a laptop (this is essentially laptop-grade hardware and thermal profile but without the screen & battery).

I guess think of it as a different form factor for a NUC?

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#72
post #18

> Launch Microsoft Copilot in Windows with a touch of the Copilot key,4 to write content, analyze data, and stay organized. Oh thank goodness. This whole product idea is further trying to gatekeep computing hardware. You will pay a cloud subscription to perform anything remotely computationally taxing.

> You will pay a cloud subscription to perform anything remotely computationally taxing. What’s wrong with that?

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Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#73

OK, great. I like what I've heard about the Ryzen AI chips so far. But can I install Linux on this thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAIzlGwEAO0&t=300s This seems provide instruction on that. There are a lot of other yt videos on this topic.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah by then the collapse of jobs will have freed up 10s of millions with access to guns. Lots of guns.

People are being shot in the face right now by the government and the people who own the most guns are cheering them on. Guns won't solve this.

Depends on your definition of solve.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#75
I don't want one, but all the skepticism is weird. I can see it making sense for hot desking office workers, or other similar. When I worked from home at my last job, I kept the laptop closed and out of sight and just connected my own monitors. Most people aren't picky about keyboards, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable product for plenty of people.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#77

Incorrectly advertising battery capacity as 32W instead of (presumably) 32WH is a hilarious mistake for a company the size of HP

If there was any doubt left whether Hewlett-Packard is still a company run by engineers, that was a clean way to dispel it.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#78

So it's a laptop, without display. Can I attach my own keyboard? From the pictures, I get the impression the keyboard sucks.

> From the pictures, I get the impression the keyboard sucks.

That was my initial thought. They made the keyboard a big part of the product, and that is the keyboard they came up with?

It's like advertising a fancy new type of AIO and then putting a crummy 50% sRGB gamut 480p TN panel in it.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#79

OK, great. I like what I've heard about the Ryzen AI chips so far. But can I install Linux on this thing?

Of course you can. It's an amd64 processor with a different name and a coprocessor. Linux doesn't have any problem installing on UEFI, so unless they did something weird, it shouldn't be a problem. Apparently linux runs pretty well on the AMD AI cpus (benchmarks of lunar lake primarily vs Ryzen AI 300 in OP):

https://www.phoronix.com/review/core-ultra-7-lunar-lake-linu...

But concept-wise I think it's a dud. A laptop without a monitor. So you either carry the laptop as two pieces (some good portable monitors around) or you are limited to only plugging it in where there's a monitor available.

Also, it seems they couldn't be bothered to spring for mechanical switches when the entire product is focused around a keyboard. Sheesh.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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post #18

> Launch Microsoft Copilot in Windows with a touch of the Copilot key,4 to write content, analyze data, and stay organized. Oh thank goodness. This whole product idea is further trying to gatekeep computing hardware. You will pay a cloud subscription to perform anything remotely computationally taxing.

The historical irony is that Hewlett-Packard was (debatably[0]) the inventor of the PC—the personal computer—the product concept which liberated users from mainframes, which replaced dumb terminals with fully-independent local computation.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_personal_computers#...

Here's[1] how HP marketed the "first personal computer", in 1968:

> "Ready to relieve you of waiting to get on the big computer," the ad declares. "Willing to perform log and trig functions, even hyperbolics and coordinate transformations at the touch of a key. Able to take on roots of a fifth-degree polynomial, Bessel functions, elliptic integrals and regression analysis."

[1] https://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/museum/personal... ("History of the 9100A desktop calculator, 1968")

They've now gone full circle, from "Ready to relieve you of waiting to get on the big computer", to "here's a dedicated key for remote computing, the core concept of this product".

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