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ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

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Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

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Most of these people will keep showing up to their cushy jobs at Google and FB while the data they spent decades harvesting is used to oppress their neighbors.

These people were not ethical before, why would you think they would be ethical or care now?

I don't.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#72
post #55

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ICE is MAGA’s analogue to the SS. Diehards specifically recruited for their commitment to the cause. They will be the ones making jokes while digging mass graves.

It is far closer to the SA than the SS. The MAGA equivalent of the SS hasn’t seen the light of day yet.

> It is far closer to the SA than the SS.

False.

SA was essentially a militia which functioned manly as the NSDAP's non-governmental terror group. As soon as NSDAP took power, Hitler used the SS to take control of the SA and assume its functions. The transition was bloody, the top commander of the SA was executed by Hitler and its leadership purged or killed, see the Night of the Long Knives.

The SA was never a government entity with any significant functions or budget.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#73
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But that's exactly wrong. The people have the power, but only if enough people resist.

Suggesting that the most legally vulnerable group be careful isn't wrong, it is the reality for which they find themselves. 66%~ of the US either voted for this, or were indifferent about it, and are a group which cannot be deported/denaturalized. Perhaps that group should step up instead of the I think it quite telling hearing born-Americans asking green card and naturalized citizens to be their "resistance" for dec…

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Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#74

Asking as a foreigner who wants to travel to Cali to visit the Computer History Museum sometimes in the future: What is the plan for ICE? Is it going to get more manpower and $$$ to expand its responsibility?

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Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#75
post #55

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It is far closer to the SA than the SS. The MAGA equivalent of the SS hasn’t seen the light of day yet.

> It is far closer to the SA than the SS. False. SA was essentially a militia which functioned manly as the NSDAP's non-governmental terror group. As soon as NSDAP took power, Hitler used the SS to take control of the SA and assume its functions. The transition was bloody, the top commander of the SA was executed by Hitler and its leadership purged or killed, see the Night of the Long Knives. The SA was never a gover…

SA = Proud Boys

SS = ICE

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#76

Asking as a foreigner who wants to travel to Cali to visit the Computer History Museum sometimes in the future: What is the plan for ICE? Is it going to get more manpower and $$$ to expand its responsibility?

As a foreigner travelling inside USA: people are super nice here in real life, and I see much less politics in real life than on Hacker News.

Be sure to create your ESTA a few workdays before though, as long as you have it you will have a great time.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#77

Technology is a fundamental political right; asymmetry of power in a polity through a monopoly on technology is the goal of any State, which people have a responsibility to deny.

Does this line of thinking make you an anarchist?

I don't think so. Anarchy is defined as the absence or non-recognition of authority, whereas I do not reject authority, but reason about controls a free market can meaningfully apply on it, namely through decentralization of technology - the means of its power.

I do believe a productive hierarchy of power could naturally emerge if everyone were equally equipped with technology. For example, if all State financial transactions were auditable by anyone (say, via immutable ledger) - would this not lead to favorable outcomes without the necessitating the chaos of anarchy?

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#78

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Incredible power, weld somehow by basement dwelling otaku NEETs. Are their claims to possess mystic wizard powers real, or perhaps are you falling for their own aggrandizing propaganda?

Where do you think QAnon and the Proud Boys started?

For every of those, there are a thousand more Trump voters who don't have anything to do with them. (Also, AFAIK the Proud Boys were started by an ex founder of Vice, and had little if anything to do with 4chan.)

4chan likes to take credit for everything that happens but they don't have any real power.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#79

Wonder what they'll get up to with all that tech when they run out of (illegal) immigrants to hunt?

They're already mostly going after legal residents, some citizens even. Their goal is to terrorize the out-group, nothing else.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#80

Asking as a foreigner who wants to travel to Cali to visit the Computer History Museum sometimes in the future: What is the plan for ICE? Is it going to get more manpower and $$$ to expand its responsibility?

Depends on the color of your skin, I guess. Also, border agents have the right to search your phone and have been known to refuse entry to people speaking ill of Trump on socials.
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