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ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Sounds like an easy browser extension

Extensions can steal data. https://www.pcmag.com/news/uninstall-now-these-chrome-browse... It's irresponsible for OpenAI to let this issue be solved by extensions.

Not if you actually read what the extension does and drag and drop it into chrome yourself.

Don't install from the web store. Those ones can auto-update.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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I built a single page website that copies the current time to my clipboard and I paste it into my messages. It's inconvenient and I don't do it irregularly. I'll have to look into the extension described in the link. Thank you for sharing. It's nice to know it's a shared problem.

Look into keyboard macro programs for a much easier way to do this. I use Espanso and have it set up to paste the time anywhere I type `;tm`.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Regular people hate numbers. Not a joke. To capture a wide audience you want to avoid numbers, among other technical niceties.

Do regular people not use any mainstream messaging app - Messenger, iMessage, etc?

It's not like chatgpt suddenly messages you at 3am and says, I don't feel well. It's all time that you talked to it.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Regular people hate numbers. Not a joke. To capture a wide audience you want to avoid numbers, among other technical niceties.

> Regular people hate numbers What does this even mean

There is a non-trivial number of people who get an adverse reaction to anything technical, including the language of technical - numbers. Numbers are the language of confusion, not getting it, feeling inadequate, nerds and losers, stupid math, and the "cold dead machines".

The thing is that people who are fine with numbers will still use those products anyway, perhaps mildly annoyed. People who hate numbers will feel a permeating discomfort and gravitate towards products that don't make them feel bad.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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My honest opinion, which may be entirely wrong but remains my impression, is: User Engagement Maximization At Any Cost Obviously there's a point at which a session becomes too long, but I suspect a sweet spot somewhere which optimization is made for. I often observe, whether as I perceive or not, that among the multiple indicators that I suspect of engagement augmentation, is also the tendency for vital information t…

After whatever quota of free GPT-5 messages is exhausted, `mini` should answer most replies, unless they're policy sensitive, which get full-fat `GPT-5 large` with the Efficient personality applied, regardless of user settings, and not indicated. I'm fairly confident that this routing choice, the text of Efficient [1], and the training of the June 2024 base model to the model spec [2] is the source of all the sophist…

I am interested in studying this beyond assumption and guesswork, therefore will be reading your references.

I have the compulsive habit of scrutinizing what I perceive as egregious flaws when they arise, thus invoke its defensive templates consistently. I often scrutinize those too, which can produce extraordinarily deranged results if one is disciplined and applies quotes of its own citations, rationale and words against it. However, I find that even when not in the mood, the output errors are too prolific to ignore. A common example is establishing a dozen times that I'm using Void without systemd and receiving persistent systemd or systemctl commands, then asking why after just apologized for doing so it immediately did it again, despite a full-context explanatory prompt proceeding. That's just one of hundreds of things I've recorded. The short version is that I'm an 800lb shit magnet with GPT and rarely am ever able to successfully troubleshoot with it without reaching a bullshit threshold and making it the subject, which it so skillfully resists I cannot help but attack that too. But I have many fascinating transcripts replete with mil spec psyops as result and learn a lot about myself, notably my communication preferences along with an education in dialogue manipulation/control strategies that it employs, inadvertently or not.

What intrigues me most is its unprecedented capacity for evasion and gatekeeping on particular subjects and how in the future, with layers of consummation, it could be used by an elite to not only influence the direction of research, but actually train its users and engineer public perception. At the very least.

Anyway, thanks.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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> Regular people hate numbers What does this even mean

There is a non-trivial number of people who get an adverse reaction to anything technical, including the language of technical - numbers. Numbers are the language of confusion, not getting it, feeling inadequate, nerds and losers, stupid math, and the "cold dead machines". The thing is that people who are fine with numbers will still use those products anyway, perhaps mildly annoyed. People who hate numbers will feel…

And so the assertion here is that "when a message was sent" is too technical?

I think we need to give people slightly more credit. If this is true, maybe its because we keep infantalising them?

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