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Re: Coarse is better

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Post by greekrich92 »

LatencyKills wrote: post #9
Zak wrote: post #5

The author claims the old models are better at creating art than the new ones. I disagree; art requires consciousness and intent while this type of model is capable of neither.

I define art as something that evokes an emotion or feeling. I’ve seen people wax poetic about the ”meaning” of an imagine only to find out that the image was created synthetically. Were those “feelings” not authentic?

If someone lies and convinces you that a loved one has died and you cry, were those feelings authentic?

Art that provokes emotion in a cheap or manipulative way is often, if not always, bad art.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by jamblewamble »

raincole wrote: post #10

It's ridiculous lol. Midjourney is optimized for beautiful images, while Nano Banana is optimized for better prompt adherence and (more importantly) image editing. It should be obvious for anyone who spent 20 minutes trying out these models. If your goal is to replace human designers with cheaper options[0], Nano Banana / ChatGPT is indefinitely more useful than Midjourney. I'd argue Midjourney is completely useless…

It is what has underpinned all of human progress towards automation. It isn't a bad thing. Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by stephantul »

2b3a51 wrote: post #61
dleeftink wrote: post #43

Eno applies: > It's the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out of control, of a medium pushing to its limits and breaking apart. The distorted guitar sound is the sound of something too loud for the medium supposed to carry it. The blues singer with the cracked voice is the sound of an emotional cry too powerful for the throat that releases it. The excitement of grainy film, of bleached…

And > "By the time a whole technology exists for something it probably isn't the most interesting thing to be doing."

Where did you get this from? Searching for it, in a weird irony I guess, just leads me back to this post.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by vlovich123 »

jamblewamble wrote: post #72
raincole wrote: post #10

It's ridiculous lol. Midjourney is optimized for beautiful images, while Nano Banana is optimized for better prompt adherence and (more importantly) image editing. It should be obvious for anyone who spent 20 minutes trying out these models. If your goal is to replace human designers with cheaper options[0], Nano Banana / ChatGPT is indefinitely more useful than Midjourney. I'd argue Midjourney is completely useless…

It is what has underpinned all of human progress towards automation. It isn't a bad thing. Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened.

Except all the manufacturing jobs got shipped overseas and now those people are Walmart greeters or similar unskilled labor. Having a shit job isn’t unemployment but it’s not a huge step up

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by pchangr »

jamblewamble wrote: post #72
raincole wrote: post #10

It's ridiculous lol. Midjourney is optimized for beautiful images, while Nano Banana is optimized for better prompt adherence and (more importantly) image editing. It should be obvious for anyone who spent 20 minutes trying out these models. If your goal is to replace human designers with cheaper options[0], Nano Banana / ChatGPT is indefinitely more useful than Midjourney. I'd argue Midjourney is completely useless…

It is what has underpinned all of human progress towards automation. It isn't a bad thing. Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened.

It has happened. There is a related term we use which is related to a historical fact .. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by JeremyNT »

jamblewamble wrote: post #72
raincole wrote: post #10

It's ridiculous lol. Midjourney is optimized for beautiful images, while Nano Banana is optimized for better prompt adherence and (more importantly) image editing. It should be obvious for anyone who spent 20 minutes trying out these models. If your goal is to replace human designers with cheaper options[0], Nano Banana / ChatGPT is indefinitely more useful than Midjourney. I'd argue Midjourney is completely useless…

It is what has underpinned all of human progress towards automation. It isn't a bad thing. Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened.

The promise is to automate the drudge work, freeing people to pursue their passions.

Like, you know... creating art.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by malnourish »

jamblewamble wrote: post #72
raincole wrote: post #10

It's ridiculous lol. Midjourney is optimized for beautiful images, while Nano Banana is optimized for better prompt adherence and (more importantly) image editing. It should be obvious for anyone who spent 20 minutes trying out these models. If your goal is to replace human designers with cheaper options[0], Nano Banana / ChatGPT is indefinitely more useful than Midjourney. I'd argue Midjourney is completely useless…

It is what has underpinned all of human progress towards automation. It isn't a bad thing. Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened.

What other automations have been hyped to automate and replace so many different types of jobs at once?

Whether or not it comes to fruition, it's making large portions of society feel uneasy, and not just programmers, or artists, or teachers.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by speedgoose »

yoan9224 wrote: post #66

The author's prompts are fighting against what Nano Banana was optimized for. Saying "British Museum" to MJv2 worked because it blurred all images tagged with museums into the aesthetic. NBP interprets it literally: show me something IN a museum. This isn't worse - it's different. MJv2 was a happy accident machine. NBP is a precision tool. If you want the coarse aesthetic, prompt for it: "rough brushstrokes, visible…

Thanks ChatGPT. I’m wondering about the motivation to spam HN with LLM generated comments. Not the worst comments though.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by loeg »

pchangr wrote: post #75
jamblewamble wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is what has underpinned all of human progress towards automation. It isn't a bad thing. Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened.

It has happened. There is a related term we use which is related to a historical fact .. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

GP is saying mass unemployment caused by technology hasn't happened, not that the Luddites weren't a real historical group.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by loeg »

vlovich123 wrote: post #74
jamblewamble wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is what has underpinned all of human progress towards automation. It isn't a bad thing. Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened.

Except all the manufacturing jobs got shipped overseas and now those people are Walmart greeters or similar unskilled labor. Having a shit job isn’t unemployment but it’s not a huge step up

That isn't what happened. American jobs are more productive than ever. Americans are richer than ever. The modern luddites dramatically underestimate how bad the past was.
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