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Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

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Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

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We should put self driving cars on tracks so they are always out of the way and have easily predictable behavior. Maybe we can even link the cars together for efficiency or something like that.

Fast forward to blackjack and hookers.

Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

#72
post #11

We should put self driving cars on tracks so they are always out of the way and have easily predictable behavior. Maybe we can even link the cars together for efficiency or something like that.

In the original Sim City, having your city entirely use tracks instead of roads was superior because there was no traffic congestion from tracks

Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

#73
post #69
post #11

We should put self driving cars on tracks so they are always out of the way and have easily predictable behavior. Maybe we can even link the cars together for efficiency or something like that.

You can further optimize the setup by not installing engines/motors in all of them. So maybe you have one car providing locomotion, with the rest following behind and designed for carrying.

And all the power could just come from a few large centralized facilities that are super efficient. We could just use thin strands of metal to get it to the vehicles over head…

Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

#74
post #11

We should put self driving cars on tracks so they are always out of the way and have easily predictable behavior. Maybe we can even link the cars together for efficiency or something like that.

In the original Sim City, having your city entirely use tracks instead of roads was superior because there was no traffic congestion from tracks

And less pollution from cars.

Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

#77

In my experience, humans respond incredibly poorly to traffic lights being out. There's no sense or reason, just people deciding to drive across the intersection when they feel like it's okay. Presumably Waymo will make sure they can handle this situation in the future, but I'm not sure there's a really satisfactory solution. The way you're supposed to handle an intersection with no lights (treat it as a stop sign in…

> In my experience, humans respond incredibly poorly to traffic lights being out.

My purely anectodotal experience is that the response is variable and culturally dependent. Americans tend to treat any intersections with a downed stoplight as a multi-way stop. It's slow but people get through. I've experienced other countries where drivers just proceed into the intersection and honk at each other. (Names withheld to protect the innocent.)

It seems a bit like the Marshmallow test but measures collaboration. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experimen...

Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

#78
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can further optimize the setup by not installing engines/motors in all of them. So maybe you have one car providing locomotion, with the rest following behind and designed for carrying.

And all the power could just come from a few large centralized facilities that are super efficient. We could just use thin strands of metal to get it to the vehicles over head…

Of course, the maintenance on those wires outside of the city means that you'd make electric trains with large batteries on them instead.

https://evmagazine.com/articles/tesla-launches-first-all-ele...

Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> miss the time when "confused" for a computer program was meant in a humorous way Not sure what about this isn’t funny. Nobody died. And the notion that traffic lights going down would not have otherwise caused congestion seems silly.

Not directly. But what about the emergency services not being able to reach their destinations? It stops being funny really fast

Same thing as if human drivers have crashed their cars in the middle of an intersection due to traffic lights being out, I would presume.

Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams

#80

In my experience, humans respond incredibly poorly to traffic lights being out. There's no sense or reason, just people deciding to drive across the intersection when they feel like it's okay. Presumably Waymo will make sure they can handle this situation in the future, but I'm not sure there's a really satisfactory solution. The way you're supposed to handle an intersection with no lights (treat it as a stop sign in…

> In my experience, humans respond incredibly poorly to traffic lights being out. My purely anectodotal experience is that the response is variable and culturally dependent. Americans tend to treat any intersections with a downed stoplight as a multi-way stop. It's slow but people get through. I've experienced other countries where drivers just proceed into the intersection and honk at each other. (Names withheld to…

One could argue that it's "cultural", but California state law says this about the situation:

> Traffic Light Not Working

When a traffic light is not working, stop as if the intersection is controlled by STOP signs in all directions. Then proceed cautiously when it is safe to do so.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbook/california-driver-han...

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