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Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by zzrrt »

codeddesign wrote: post #63
zzrrt wrote: post #55

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Ok then, I look forward to my tax breaks and refunds enabled by cutting this program. I’m sure it’s in the mail with all the other dividends for citizens that Trump mentions every few months.

Again, this would be the Legislative branch. Your right to vote has not decreased, and you can absolutely contact your senator to introduce a bill for what you stated. I mean, you have a representative. Absolutely use them if you dislike something. However, disagreeing with the Legislative or Executive branch in no way erodes your democratic rights.

My right to vote for a Congress member and tell them what I want to fund is nullified, if the president refuses to follow the budget laws they passed.

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by chasil »

DrewADesign wrote: post #67
chasil wrote: post #46

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What? https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

What? NPR≠PBS. The content and style are completely different.

Pretty much, I don't care.

I will be very pleased to see the back of all of you in my expatriate retirement.

As long as my social security checks arrive, you can trash this place as much as you like. Have at it.

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by mmooss »

codeddesign wrote: post #64
mmooss wrote: post #59

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> When a university program is not profitable they close the program. That's moving the goalposts. Universities are not for-profit organizations (with a few exceptions). By insisting on focusing on 'profit', the enemies of liberal education and liberalism can shut down much of it. Business school is of course profitable, and science has patents. What about the history department?

That would be up to the school. After all, it does have a $1.4 billion dollar endowment. (ASU is not struggling at all) Every university has to decide what is profitable and what is a loss leader. You have to be well rounded to attract students, but also make money. In this case, the school decided that this studio had less benefit to them than reward. If this studio attracted more students (tuition $$) then it would…

> make money

> the school decided that this studio had less benefit to them than reward

Again, you are assuming that is a goal of higher education. You're making a circular argument.

> reality the school decided that this studio wasn’t worth keeping.

That's obvious, and possibly because of political pressure.

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by Braxton1980 »

meltyness wrote: post #68
Braxton1980 wrote: post #65

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I assume by your rant you don't have the evidence I requested and your claims a more likely based on your political views and not reality. What's disturbing is that you're probably an engineer, like you know how to open PRs but also think the 2020 election was stolen. Maybe that explains why software has bugs

Yeah, we're opining on a segment that I opined is excessively opinionated (i.e., opinions are confidently stated so as to be represented as facts, "half of teachers are using LLMs") but when you look, the "study" is just a bunch of opinion polls. So yeah it is, in the literal sense, the professor's opinion being represented as facts, thank you have a nice day.

"confidently stated"

How? Because they stated their opinion and they think they're right?

As opposed to having an opinion you think is wrong?

>half of teachers are using LLM

This is their opinion based on a study that polled teachers? How is this unreasonable?

Determining popularity by polling makes complete sense.

You're just anti intellectual for political reasons. Also supporting Trump while not liking people who are opinionated and overly confident makes you a hypocrite

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by meltyness »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #75
meltyness wrote: post #68

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Yeah, we're opining on a segment that I opined is excessively opinionated (i.e., opinions are confidently stated so as to be represented as facts, "half of teachers are using LLMs") but when you look, the "study" is just a bunch of opinion polls. So yeah it is, in the literal sense, the professor's opinion being represented as facts, thank you have a nice day.

"confidently stated" How? Because they stated their opinion and they think they're right? As opposed to having an opinion you think is wrong? >half of teachers are using LLM This is their opinion based on a study that polled teachers? How is this unreasonable? Determining popularity by polling makes complete sense. You're just anti intellectual for political reasons. Also supporting Trump while not liking people who…

I mean this is just one case, I didn't cherry pick this, I peeked at a few previous episodes to find an episode where there was indeed a professor for the feature interview.

It's uninteresting because it's basically become a platform for regulatory capture. It's a wellspring of obviously non-universal ideas like, "there is no right way to integrate AI and primary education", "the federal government should subsidize ai access", or "only safe ai platforms should be permitted". I mean it's obviously their right to blather incessantly about it, I just think it's boring, and that's all I've said.

Maybe it's because I'm not a politician or a philanthropist, and I'm not required to tailor my actions to appease a large number of people subject to my will, but there's obviously better ways to approach that, like delegating and talking to people, who are local to the concern.

It's a nuanced and long term discussion and I think lots of the stuff that winds up in these interviews is really a local issue that's going into the wrong channel by well-meaning folks who don't understand government, or worse folks who are seeking to exploit government for profit.

And concretely, the interview doesn't focus on the book or the study, it's literally just an authoritative "intersectional" quiz about how AI/Education crosses with Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion,... a dumb question.

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Post by DrewADesign »

chasil wrote: post #72
DrewADesign wrote: post #67

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What? NPR≠PBS. The content and style are completely different.

Pretty much, I don't care. I will be very pleased to see the back of all of you in my expatriate retirement. As long as my social security checks arrive, you can trash this place as much as you like. Have at it.

Enjoy your vibes-based version of reality where objective truth doesn’t actually matter. That’s definitely not one of the primary criticisms conservatives have wielded against the post-modern left. You won’t bother to check, so I’m sure you’ll feel that expat community will be happy to have you!

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by chasil »

DrewADesign wrote: post #77
chasil wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much, I don't care. I will be very pleased to see the back of all of you in my expatriate retirement. As long as my social security checks arrive, you can trash this place as much as you like. Have at it.

Enjoy your vibes-based version of reality where objective truth doesn’t actually matter. That’s definitely not one of the primary criticisms conservatives have wielded against the post-modern left. You won’t bother to check, so I’m sure you’ll feel that expat community will be happy to have you!

Who said that I wanted community?

As was recently revived, a pox on both your houses. May the intellectual rot of both parties hasten.

I'll prefer to see this at a distance.

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by DrewADesign »

chasil wrote: post #78
DrewADesign wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enjoy your vibes-based version of reality where objective truth doesn’t actually matter. That’s definitely not one of the primary criticisms conservatives have wielded against the post-modern left. You won’t bother to check, so I’m sure you’ll feel that expat community will be happy to have you!

Who said that I wanted community? As was recently revived, a pox on both your houses. May the intellectual rot of both parties hasten. I'll prefer to see this at a distance.

You sure do talk a lot for someone that doesn’t care what anybody else thinks.

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

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Post by Braxton1980 »

meltyness wrote: post #76
Braxton1980 wrote: post #75

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"confidently stated" How? Because they stated their opinion and they think they're right? As opposed to having an opinion you think is wrong? >half of teachers are using LLM This is their opinion based on a study that polled teachers? How is this unreasonable? Determining popularity by polling makes complete sense. You're just anti intellectual for political reasons. Also supporting Trump while not liking people who…

I mean this is just one case, I didn't cherry pick this, I peeked at a few previous episodes to find an episode where there was indeed a professor for the feature interview. It's uninteresting because it's basically become a platform for regulatory capture. It's a wellspring of obviously non-universal ideas like, "there is no right way to integrate AI and primary education", "the federal government should subsidize a…

> it's literally just an authoritative "intersectional" quiz about how AI/Education crosses with Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion,... a dumb question.

What's an "authoritative intersectional quiz"?

>Maybe it's because I'm not a politician or a philanthropist..

Your accusations were about professors so why are you bringing up politicians. Also a philanthropist doesn't have people under his control.

>...delegating and talking to people, who are local to the concern.... lots of the stuff that winds up in these interviews is really a local issue that's going into the wrong channel

What's a local issue that shouldn't be discussed on PBS? You were just discussing AI which isn't a local issue.

>because it's basically become a platform for regulatory capture

How? You used so many buzz words I believe you either used chatgpt to generate the response or you're a bot

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