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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by justinclift »

throwaway613745 wrote: post #2

oh ffs, I was just thinking about upgrading my current PC with a new GPU and CPU and just keeping the same 64gb of AM4 DDR4 I already have. But now even the prices for the CPUs are skyrocketting? Eff everything about this and curse Sam Altman.

The gaming focused CPUs yeah. If you're on an early generation AM4 cpu (ie 2600x) then updating to a 5xxx cpu that's not gaming focused is still pretty cheap and likely worthwhile. ie 5950x

Depending upon your workload and motherboard support of course.

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Post by christkv »

agoodusername63 wrote: post #39
christkv wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pc gaming is also massively cheaper than consoles these days so the lifetime cost is lower

How? Consoles don’t pay for online subscriptions with f2p games anymore, which is the overwhelming lions share of online play today. Consoles also get to flip games you’re done with. I’m positive about 3 of my friends spend much less than I do on gaming these days because of all the games they buy, play once, then flip again on FB market place And then you get to the rising entry level cost of PC gaming. If you want…

Looking forward the physical media will disappear (with maybe the exception being Nintendo). Next gen playstation will probably be more expensive than the ps5 pro which is already 800 EUR in Europe so there will be little difference in pricing I think.

You are right about f2p though but you also don't need an insane PC to play most of the popular ones. Even a mini pc does that these days pretty decently and Integrated Graphics will keep on improving.

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Post by doublerabbit »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #6
tylerflick wrote: post #4

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> 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter It’s impossible to keep my 5800x below 90C under full load.

This is where the 5700X shines. 8 cores, still cool.

I got the 5950x at launch for stupid money. I have no reason to part from it.

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Post by tylerflick »

db48x wrote: post #36
tylerflick wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter It’s impossible to keep my 5800x below 90C under full load.

Then you need better cooling. The stock coolers are pretty mediocre.

The 5800X didn’t ship with a stock cooler IIRC. Mine is cooled with a 360 AIO + PTM7950, the thing just runs really hot when all cores are hitting ~4.4GHz.

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Post by duffyjp »

penultimatename wrote: post #66
duffyjp wrote: post #64

I browsed thru my comment history to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. Just over a year ago I had priced out a used Xeon and 256GB kit on eBay for my old X99 board (DDR4) for under $300. I did not pull the trigger. I did thankfully get it up to 64gb for ~ $50. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41100502

I double checked my RAM purchase from early September. $450 for 128GB of DDR5. That same RAM is now $1400. I know it’s a bit naive to extrapolate from that, but something doesn’t smell right, the PC hardware market is clearly going through something, probably caused by the AI boom. I wonder what else is shifting that isn’t so apparent.

Everybody says this is because OpenAI bought up 40% of the world's supply of DRAM. Certainly that has hugely tilted the supply and demand teeter-totter, but to me this just feels like another "because we can" by the market.

When beef is expensive, you buy chicken. There's no alternative to RAM. If you need it, you've gotta pony up.

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