IMO the market is getting distupted by more live audience and curated platforms like Maven.
Coursera to combine with Udemy
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#72both have had questionable content for a while, it's a wonder people are still paying for them. especially given that LLMs exist (and youtube for that matter).
If I were a professor at a decent school, I'd probably look at the landscape of MOOCs and go "Why am I spending any time on this?" It seemed like something new and potentially exciting at one point. I certainly wouldn't today.
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#73Both have garbage content at this point - Coursera was great when they launched, top quality material and university-level instruction. Now it's just bottom of the barrel scraps. YT has tons of quality instruction - hell nowadays I just ask an LLM to make me a course for whatever I wanna learn.
Considering hallucinations, that seems risky. How do you double check what you were taught?
The same way you double check with any other method you prefer? Duh.
LLMs are vastly superior to compile and spread knowledge than any other thing preceding them.
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#74Previously I asked how did MOOCs, which were such an early 2010s hyped tech trend, fall so far from its promise. Thread:
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#75As someone who had to drop out of school in the 2008 crisis (family trouble), I owe a good chunk of my learning to the first era of online teaching. Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Everything that came after has been substantially worse. Work is gamified, teachers spend more time…
> If we went back to recording lectures by the worlds best and putting it online for free with attached books and exercises, we could improve the world a lot.
How is that a viable model?
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#76The ongoing enshittification of Coursera, Udacity, and EdX is sad to watch.
Wonder how Khan Academy is doing these days.
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#77Universities are not going anywhere MOOC are a dead end
Dead end for what? Quality recordings of real lectures have been amazing for self improvement. I've never gone into it expecting a meaningful certificate, just meaning for me living my life.
You're probably in the small minority at least when it comes to forking over material dollars. Most people spending money, at least beyond trade paperback range, are probably looking for something that has at least a plausible connection to real income.
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#78This same week, Egghead ( https://egghead.io ) started offering $500 lifetime access to everything they ever made or will make. There's definitely some excellent material in their catalog. But the signals sure seem to point toward the decline of centralized human-created coursework.
(meta: genuinely curious why my observation was downvoted. I may take a further karma hit for mentioning it but worth it if it elicits a meaningful response. what gives?)
At a guess, because it sounds like a product pitch and these 'lifetime payment things' are ALWAYS curtailed if the product actually survives.
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#79Both have garbage content at this point - Coursera was great when they launched, top quality material and university-level instruction. Now it's just bottom of the barrel scraps. YT has tons of quality instruction - hell nowadays I just ask an LLM to make me a course for whatever I wanna learn.
Considering hallucinations, that seems risky. How do you double check what you were taught?
Hallucinations has made huge progress over last 3 years
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#80Both have garbage content at this point - Coursera was great when they launched, top quality material and university-level instruction. Now it's just bottom of the barrel scraps. YT has tons of quality instruction - hell nowadays I just ask an LLM to make me a course for whatever I wanna learn.
Considering hallucinations, that seems risky. How do you double check what you were taught?
Don't ask them to teach you, ask them to make a self-study syllabus/roadmap with online references. It's likely that it ingested the work of others in exactly this scenario, so it shouldn't confabulate as easily.