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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

jojobas wrote: post #45
pfych wrote: post #35

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It's crazy to read this because I came from a Samsung TV/Display - LG Software is so much better than that! Really wish we'd get dumb displays with these great panels :(

So far nothing prevents you from spending $100 to set up LibreElec on an RPi and leave the TV offline and dumb.

This is what I do, but… Kodi sure seems like it is on the downhill. Multiple things don’t work for me like HDR for one example.

I’m looking to see what I would get or lose with Apple TV or some Plex/JellyFin/other player with less baggage.

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Post by drnick1 »

malfist wrote: post #68
drnick1 wrote: post #66

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> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or…

Its terrible Apple is spying on you. But the alternative is to have someone spying on you and forcing ads on you. Sophie's choice.

I suggested in another comment a Linux HTPC or a Pi with a FOSS AndroidTV ROM as alternatives.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by dankwizard »

Thank god, the sooner we start to appreciate the wide spread adoption of AI the sooner we can start being more productive.

A TV is the perfect place to introduce AI in terms of giving me content I should actually enjoy, and answering any questions I may have about what I'm watching. Kudos to LG for being the first.

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Post by hapticmonkey »

drnick1 wrote: post #66
hapticmonkey wrote: post #20

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My LG TV has been offline for the past 2 years (since I got it). I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. I know people want "dumb" displays, but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality and benefit from economies of scale, where most users want some form of built-in OS. A signage board cannot compete on price or quality. As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue…

> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or…

> Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data.

They quite literally have settings to disable that. There are no ads in the operating system.

https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/tv/atvb66239fa1/tvos

I'm sure some conspiratorial thinking would lead people to the conclusion that Apple are secretly tracking and selling data. There is no evidence to suggest this is happening.

It's probably the next best thing to setting up your own linux home theater PC. But that comes with trade-offs with UX and DRM blocking 4K streaming apps and lack of Dolby Vision playback.

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Post by bdangubic »

bakugo wrote: post #31
hapticmonkey wrote: post #20

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My LG TV has been offline for the past 2 years (since I got it). I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. I know people want "dumb" displays, but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality and benefit from economies of scale, where most users want some form of built-in OS. A signage board cannot compete on price or quality. As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue…

> As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue, I'm fine with that. I suspect that this won't be the case for much longer. Once you've stuffed the TV with all the ads and data harvesting you can, the logical next step is to ensure it doesn't work at all unless those ads are being watched and that data is being harvested.

I have used a projector my entire life, I have no idea why this isn’t a “thing” (especially with HN crowd-like communities)…

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Post by ungovernableCat »

yalogin wrote: post #21

Why? If they want to even embed copilot, they could have atleast been strategic about it!! Copilot has this image that has something to do with coding, average person doesn’t care be bit about it and see ut as an invasive pest

>Why?

Because wallstreet just needs to see that AI adoption number go up. No one really cares about if it's accidental clicks, or hell just mandatory running in the background. We just need that number to go up, and next quarter it has to go up even more.

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Post by reactordev »

pabs3 wrote: post #44

I wonder if it is possible to install a standard Linux distro on LG TVs. There is KDE Plasma Bigscreen for a TV-like experience on such distros. https://plasma-bigscreen.org/ If not, there are some webOS exploits on this wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/Exploits Hopefully the Vizio lawsuit will mean the right to repair software comes to TVs more easily. https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html

You can absolutely jailbreak them and install whatever

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Post by reactordev »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #26
weikju wrote: post #14

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No, the boss is asking for more salt. Employees are then replacing sugar with salt and getting bonuses, no matter what the customer reactions are.

And then word gets around that you put salt in coffee instead of sugar, and people stop going to you. Unless you’re the only deli in town.

“We’d like to introduce you to Copilot Enterprise”…

Yes, the only deli in town. Office, Server, Desktop, now your TV, pretty soon your car.

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Post by RayVR »

pabs3 wrote: post #44

I wonder if it is possible to install a standard Linux distro on LG TVs. There is KDE Plasma Bigscreen for a TV-like experience on such distros. https://plasma-bigscreen.org/ If not, there are some webOS exploits on this wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/Exploits Hopefully the Vizio lawsuit will mean the right to repair software comes to TVs more easily. https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html

I saw that rootmy.tv works for some versions of webos.
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