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If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

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Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

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If this were true wouldn’t fMRI machines cause either loss of consciousness or extreme hallucinations?

Not necessarily - I think it works like Daniel Kahneman's System 1 and System 2. Your conscious system is System 2 - when it's not working correctly, you just fall back to System 1.

Independently, since the whole idea relies on resonance, it may be the case that an fMRI doesn't actually interfere with the "stochastic resonance" mechanic quite like TMS (transcranial magnetic simulation) seems to.

If you model the brain this way, dementia looks like a clear breakdown of System 2, which is an interesting thought experiment even if the mechanics aren't perfect: https://1393.xyz/writing/alzheimers-is-the-symptom-not-the-p...

Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any actual science behind binaural beats? They do nothing in my experience…

go visit a doctor. edit: lol. downvotes on friendly reminder, what a classic. my friend was not sure what everyone sees on 3d TVs. then got rid of it. later it turned out it was because of eye cancer. take care.

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Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any actual science behind binaural beats? They do nothing in my experience…

There use to be one Google video (out of many) that would completely fix my migraine in 3 minutes. Used it about 200 times for that. Hangovers, lack of sleep and spontaneous headaches. At other times it just gave great clarity, very refreshing regardless of the time of day. I didn't use headphones. I had the link at the top of my blog menu. It was that important. When Google video shut down I forgot to download it. C…

I'm now super interested in that video, what was it like?

Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

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If you're interested in my personal chain-of-thought on the subject:

This was where I started pulling this thread (October 2025): https://1393.xyz/writing/could-the-root-cause-of-alzheimers-...

And this is an even further ancestor of the ideas (December 2023): https://1393.xyz/writing/are-we-only-conscious-while-were-le...

I'm operating off of my own subjective experience, and this idea lines up tightly with System 1 and System 2 in cognitive psychology.

It seems that many jump to "AI psychosis" when one mentions magnetic fields, but the evolutionary tree is very straightforward:

1. Nature evolves magnetoreception for navigation

2. Eventually, a brain in nature with magnetoreception accidentally "hears" its own magnetic field with with resonance

3. That lossy global summary of the brains ends up being an evolutionarily advantageous "higher-order sense"

4. Evolution sharpens the blade for many years

On first principles, that seems perfectly viable and even likely given that magnetoreception was such a boon for survival for all life.

Just glad others are finding it interesting!

Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

#76

Reminds me of a study I read once on binaural beats[0], that found the effect disappeared when they used pneumatic (non-magnetic) headphones. [0]the theory that playing a different tone in each ear, that when superpositioned by the brain to produce a low frequency, would entrain the brainwave frequency to the modulated frequency.

My hypothesis for both this and most of the things stated in the article: the EEG machine itself is picking up the fluctuations in its EM environment.

I mean, what's more likely - that the binaural beats retune brain, or that someone forgot that any straight-ish piece of wire is a radio antenna, and the signal being seen comes straight from headphones? Using pneumatic headphones would make it go away too.

Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

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This reminds me of the study about dog poop being aligned to magnetic north/south.[0] It seems a bit silly, but I suspect that more of our life may be effected by biomagnetism than we yet realize. [0] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1742-9994-10-80

This is cited

Good point. I missed that, thanks.

Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

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If you're interested in my personal chain-of-thought on the subject: This was where I started pulling this thread (October 2025): https://1393.xyz/writing/could-the-root-cause-of-alzheimers-... And this is an even further ancestor of the ideas (December 2023): https://1393.xyz/writing/are-we-only-conscious-while-were-le... I'm operating off of my own subjective experience, and this idea lines up tightly with System 1…

Then how can we exist around large magnetic fields without them affecting us mentally - no forgetting, no dropping unconscious, no trippy psychedelic experiences - seemingly nothing at all? How come our mains electricity does not not act on our minds analogously to a blowtorch on our skin, or a hydraulic press on our bones?

MRI machines at 3 Tesla field strength are 100,000x stronger than the Earth's magnetic field, and pulsed very fast. They affect the spin of the nucleus of the Hydrogen atoms in the body, but apparently have no effect on the person's brain or consciousness (or biomagnetite)? We wear headphones with electromagnetic coils pulsing music on the sides of our heads for hours at a time, with no effect. We use machine's powerful electric motors, work near them, we're surrounded by alternating currents in wires, some people experiment with Tesla Coils, MagLev capable of lifting trains, wireless power delivery...

(PS. Red / Arctic Foxes might be able to see the Earth's magnetic field and use it to help find mice to hunt; they listen for mice they can't see and jump-pounce into the snow and their jumps are successful at getting the mouse 80% of the time when they are facing North-East and only 18% of the time when they aren't - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/foxes-use... )

Re: If a Meta AI model can read a brain-wide signal, why wouldn't the brain?

#80

If this were true wouldn’t fMRI machines cause either loss of consciousness or extreme hallucinations?

Not necessarily - I think it works like Daniel Kahneman's System 1 and System 2. Your conscious system is System 2 - when it's not working correctly, you just fall back to System 1. Independently, since the whole idea relies on resonance, it may be the case that an fMRI doesn't actually interfere with the "stochastic resonance" mechanic quite like TMS (transcranial magnetic simulation) seems to. If you model the brai…

You know the mechanism of TMS is not mysterious. It requires no magnetoreception or "stochastic resonance". It is simply inducing electrical currents to modulate neural activity. Its effects are consistent with the known laws of physics, known properties of neurons, and decades of neuroscience research.
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