Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

sandyuraz.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 172 posts

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#71

Post by kavrick »

tedggh wrote: post #63

Loved his series until he visited my hometown and completely misrepresented it. I get his style was anti establishment and mainstream, but he ended up hanging out with the wrong crowd in town, one of them known for being a fraudster, a spoiled child running bad restaurant after bad restaurant. Somehow these guys managed to be featured in the show as the progressive minds of local cuisine. It made me question everythi…

I appreciate that must have been difficult. If you could set the record straight, where would you have taken him? Love to hear your reccos and thoughts!

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#72

Post by PunchyHamster »

Oarch wrote: post #67
tedggh wrote: post #63

Loved his series until he visited my hometown and completely misrepresented it. I get his style was anti establishment and mainstream, but he ended up hanging out with the wrong crowd in town, one of them known for being a fraudster, a spoiled child running bad restaurant after bad restaurant. Somehow these guys managed to be featured in the show as the progressive minds of local cuisine. It made me question everythi…

I had the same sense. I can see why people like the shows, but to me there's a subtle arrogance to the rich, white American guy just holding court everywhere he goes and explaining local matters as if he's an expert. The food aspect of his shows was often secondary.

It's always funny when I watch stuff about some foreigner visiting my home country and they either focus on something not all that important, or get something completely wrong.

The funniest part is trying to present some dish as "traditional" that everyone here eats, while it's some super niche thing only one region does, occasionally, if you have grandma that remembers how to make it

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#73

Post by rdtsc »

Oarch wrote: post #67
tedggh wrote: post #63

Loved his series until he visited my hometown and completely misrepresented it. I get his style was anti establishment and mainstream, but he ended up hanging out with the wrong crowd in town, one of them known for being a fraudster, a spoiled child running bad restaurant after bad restaurant. Somehow these guys managed to be featured in the show as the progressive minds of local cuisine. It made me question everythi…

I had the same sense. I can see why people like the shows, but to me there's a subtle arrogance to the rich, white American guy just holding court everywhere he goes and explaining local matters as if he's an expert. The food aspect of his shows was often secondary.

> I had the same sense. I can see why people like the shows, but to me there's a subtle arrogance to the rich, white American guy just holding court everywhere he goes and explaining local matters as if he's an expert. The food aspect of his shows was often secondary.

My most memorable moment from the show was when Bourdain visited some poor farmer to see how they were harvesting yuca (or maybe yams, I forgot) and he went into the typical (I am paraphrasing) "oh look, this is the life, so perfect being one with nature, etc...". And the farmer shut him up pretty quickly with something like "How about a trade: you stay here and farm yams in the rain, in the perfect unity with the nature, and I go to live in your apartment in New York?"

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#74

Post by nomilk »

coderintherye wrote: post #11
cbarrick wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost all. According to the article, we are still missing one: "David Bowie Related" 1/14/2016

The missing David Bowie related list ( https://li.st/l/7SmVwCFEU6JDQ2jKQfeJzh ) has an image preview shared on Reddit, though sadly not the text https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthonyBourdain/comments/40wkx3/ant...

This thread sounds like a community challenge.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#75

Post by testfrequency »

tedggh wrote: post #63

Loved his series until he visited my hometown and completely misrepresented it. I get his style was anti establishment and mainstream, but he ended up hanging out with the wrong crowd in town, one of them known for being a fraudster, a spoiled child running bad restaurant after bad restaurant. Somehow these guys managed to be featured in the show as the progressive minds of local cuisine. It made me question everythi…

I empathize with this as vice news at their peak did similar things in Chicago, which is why most chicagoans don’t like Vice.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#76

Post by eucyclos »

tedggh wrote: post #63

Loved his series until he visited my hometown and completely misrepresented it. I get his style was anti establishment and mainstream, but he ended up hanging out with the wrong crowd in town, one of them known for being a fraudster, a spoiled child running bad restaurant after bad restaurant. Somehow these guys managed to be featured in the show as the progressive minds of local cuisine. It made me question everythi…

Maybe it's just the similarity in appearance and cause of death to Carradign and Epstein making me see patterns that aren't there, but I cannot watch a Bourdain clip without getting the sense something is deeply wrong.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#77

Post by vasco »

asveikau wrote: post #34
treesknees wrote: post #7

At the risk of being downvoted… for the uninitiated among us, what’s interesting about these or the person? I understand he was a chef and had several TV shows. Is it just celebrity fascination?

Hard to summarize. He created the impression of being authentic. He had an unpretentious New York accent. He was happy in and advocated for unpretentious areas, which goes against some of the stereotypes of overly social media friendly foodie stuff. He encouraged his audience to travel and understand other people. His struggles and imperfections also evoked sympathy. He spoke about how he used to have a drug problem.…

He also covered up his girlfriend's abuse of underage people by paying to silence them and protected her to the end when he knew she was guilty. The shame of doing this got to him instead of setting the record straight also.

Very mixed bag of a guy imo but the internet loves him because he came across genuine.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#78

Post by vasco »

soulofmischief wrote: post #45
itomato wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You assume too much

You might assume you have known depression, but you would not speak such cruelties had you truly experienced the depths of sadness that a human being is capable of feeling.

This is the no true scottsman fallacy of mental health. Oh my god if only you knew how worse it can get.

Like you have no comparison, maybe what makes you despair and consider suicide won't make anyone else even budge. The same way you have no way of knowing if I see more or less intense green color, you cannot tell someone they haven't suffered enough.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#79

Post by vasco »

People who abandon their kids don't really have anything to teach you. There's isn't much worse you can do. But in this case Anthony did that also:

> Anthony Bourdain paid a $380,000 settlement to actor Jimmy Bennett in 2018 to silence allegations that Asia Argento had sexually assaulted him in 2013, when Bennett was 17 and Argento was 37

Great role model. People see a guy that looks cool and says edgy shit and that's it, he is now a great person, lol.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

#80

Post by jimnotgym »

Wistar wrote: post #54
haunter wrote: post #35

>Kramer knives: I don’t own one. I can’t afford one I highly doubt he couldn't afford a $2,500 knife https://kramerknives.com/product-category/latest-creations/

A real Kramer is often much, much more than $2,500. Kramer’s mid-line knives go, even used , for $10–$30K while his high-end, rarer stuff goes for much more. In fact, Bourdain had a real Kramer with meteorite used in its construction that sold at auction in 2019 for $231,500. https://www.antiquesandthearts.com/anthony-bourdains-bob-kra... See also, some current mid-line Kramer pricing: https://eatingtools.com/collect…

So they are not real knives then, just rich boys play things?
Post reply on HN