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This is the coolest thing Ive seen in a long time. I wonder if we could use this to train squirrels to not get hit by cars.

I think there would be more money saved by making sure deer don't get hit by cars...

It's not about the money, it's about the squirrels!

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The year is 2034. Countless attempts at re-producing the sophisticated wetware of the brain have failed. Modeling research has proved unfruitful, with the curse of dimensionality afflicting every attempt at breaking the walls of general intelligence. With only a few million of capital left, and facing bankruptcy, they knew that only one option remained. "Bring me the rats."

Douglas Adams would point out that this is just why the rats already trained us to play DOOM.

The mice, actually; the rats are never mentioned.

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How could you go to this amount of work and not continue??? Probably just waiting for other people to get mad at the lack of progress so that they attempt this themselves, and then he can challenge them to a deathmatch with his highly trainer ringer rats

When rats gaming championships become a thing, I will have the top team for sure! Seriously though, this project took way too much time. We built 2 versions of the setup, lots of hardware, software building, testing. I hope a behavioral lab or hardware enthusiasts would take it over and scale it. I did learn a lot in the process and would gladly support anyone who would continue it. In fact, I have a setup now laying…

Seriously impressive work, and I do hope someone runs with the torch, it's always fascinating to see what our little rodent buddies are capable of.

Even if you're sort of like an alien abducting them for experiments.... if you offered me a sugar drip to play doom in VR, I'd be there

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10 microliter doses though. Pretty teeny tiny. But it is a valid concern.

Giving them slightly acidic water off-rig and normal water while playing is another option - not the best either. I opted for sugar in the end, because they didn't spend much time on the setup; but this should be reconsidered if they on-rig for hours daily.

The trick is to save the treats till the end. They can learn to do a lot if they know they'll be rewarded later.

Check out Shadow The Rat on YouTube; she has a whole series on training them.

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Gonna be honest here, I've worked on this for so long, so many iterations, lots of versions for each 3D part, software and all, at this point I just wanted to publish everything I had and do it fast. And you are totally right, publishing without parametric source files was a mistake, I'll upload everything I have shortly, prices included. Note: mice require smaller setups and that just leads to the redesign of most p…

Oh, I hope you don't take this as me being upset. I'm super happy and totally get the motivation. I a fan of the adage "better to do something half assed than no assed" (not that this is half-assed). Just wanted to make the comment to help drive motivation and let you know there's a demand. Releasing the sources could really help too just so people don't have to work with the mesh. But on the rat part, that is super…

Thank you! audiovisual feedback of shooting with monster disappearing -> reward. Biting or scratching a surface as a form of attack may work better, but the audiovisual + reward response should help them to understand at what visual signals to pull the lever to make it go boom.

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Giving them slightly acidic water off-rig and normal water while playing is another option - not the best either. I opted for sugar in the end, because they didn't spend much time on the setup; but this should be reconsidered if they on-rig for hours daily.

The trick is to save the treats till the end. They can learn to do a lot if they know they'll be rewarded later. Check out Shadow The Rat on YouTube; she has a whole series on training them.

Gotta love Shadow!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV9z0c1hjnA

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Douglas Adams would point out that this is just why the rats already trained us to play DOOM.

The mice, actually; the rats are never mentioned.

That I remember, but I have to work with the material I am given …
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