DeepSeek uses banned Nvidia chips for AI model, report says

Post by codedokode » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:54 PM UTC

rvnx wrote: post #19

Long term consequences: China outperforms Nvidia, by producing cheaper, faster chips at a large scale, by getting inspired by the IP but using their own production lines. Through sanctions, the irony is that the west removed the incentive for China to respect IP laws. Well done. If they can solve the lithography/ASML issue by getting access to it, then they will be forced to win.

Post by cj » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:57 PM UTC

DivingForGold wrote: post #68

What do you want to bet ALL GPU's being manufactured by US sources have NSA requirements that now have built into the chips and firmware interesting "controls". They know what region of the world the chip is in, they have features to "brick them" in case of war, etc. Encrypted communication back to US servers required, or if denied, then GPU will not function, etc.

Post by tirant » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:59 PM UTC

BigTTYGothGF wrote: post #47

the_pwner224 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just selling my RTX 4090 on Ebay recently and got a ton of bids from Chinese accounts. The winner ($2,325) had Australia set as the country on their profile, but a Chinese name on the account, and the order shipping address was to a different Chinese name (to a regular single-family house in Delaware). Most bidders straight up had China as their profile country. So my 4090 (24 GB) is probably going to get turne…

People with Chinese names do sometimes live in Delaware.

Post by totallymike » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 6:04 PM UTC

rvnx wrote: post #50

embedding-shape wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And I'm almost certain nothing will happen What realistically could happen? Nvidia is already prohibited from selling their GPUs to China, I guess if you wanted it to really stop, you'd need to prohibit Nvidia from selling GPUs in any other country but the US, and require some sort of government controlled license to be able to buy it inside the US. Neither of which sound like realistic options. So what could anyon…

License leases, this is what they can do. You log into the Nvidia Enterprise Portal and download a license file that is temporary valid (e.g. 7 days) and bound to the specific serial numbers. You transfer that file to your local license (DLS) server. It does not need to be permanently connected to the internet, but it needs to be refreshed periodically. Your local server now holds the tickets that the GPUs need to us…

Post by kevmo314 » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 6:05 PM UTC

rvnx wrote: post #50

embedding-shape wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And I'm almost certain nothing will happen What realistically could happen? Nvidia is already prohibited from selling their GPUs to China, I guess if you wanted it to really stop, you'd need to prohibit Nvidia from selling GPUs in any other country but the US, and require some sort of government controlled license to be able to buy it inside the US. Neither of which sound like realistic options. So what could anyon…

License leases, this is what they can do. You log into the Nvidia Enterprise Portal and download a license file that is temporary valid (e.g. 7 days) and bound to the specific serial numbers. You transfer that file to your local license (DLS) server. It does not need to be permanently connected to the internet, but it needs to be refreshed periodically. Your local server now holds the tickets that the GPUs need to us…