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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by Daneel_ »

andrelaszlo wrote: post #59
Daneel_ wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says two years of average use. “Two” is not “years” in my opinion. “Years” implies at least 3-5.

"Two year of average use"?

I’m not talking grammar, I’m talking convention.

Think of it more like this: If I was selling you a car and said it would last for years, then would you expect it to fall apart after two years? I certainly wouldn’t. When talking about small quantities we tend to specify an exact number (two, three), however as the range becomes larger and less exact we use generalities (years). Because of this “years” would typically refer to a span of at least 3-5 years, and I would argue even longer.

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Post by sneak »

Daneel_ wrote: post #33
tenacious_tuna wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from the article: > Initially, we experimented by building this as an app on Pebble, since it has a mic and I’m always wearing one. But, I realized quickly that this was suboptimal - it required me to use my other hand to press the button to start recording (lift-to-wake gestures and wake-words are too unreliable). This was tough to use while bicycling or carrying stuff.

I’ve never had that issue with my Apple Watch. Granted, apple are a world-class developer (arguably), so their stuff might be more reliable, but I use raise-to-speak and hey siri with my watch all the time.

Siri sends your contacts list to Apple with every request. That makes it a nonstarter for me.

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Post by Jeremy1026 »

ipsum2 wrote: post #47

12-15 hours of recording is maybe 2 weeks usage for heavy users. It would've been perfect if it could connect to computers and had a rechargeable battery. Oh well, hope someone else takes inspiration and makes the same thing but can recharge.

That would be a minute of recording for every 22-28 minutes. That is some seriously heavy use. Especially considering that doesn't include sleep.

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Post by graypegg »

Hmm... I sort of would've preferred it was JUST a button. I wonder if you could even make it perpetually powered by body heat + buffer battery if it's ONLY job was to emit a couple packets over BLE with some burned in ID that you save on the watch. I don't know how efficient peltier elements are going to be on such a small area, but the cold side would be attached to a big metal ring, which feels like an adequate heat sink. (Peltier elements work on heat differential right? Not an expert.)

I know they mentioned that they thought of making this just a watch app, but didn't like the two-handed button press or raise to wake gesture. Why not just optimize for removing the gesture entirely? The microphone has to be better on a full size watch on your wrist vs the tiny ring further away on your finger.

This hits the same nerve in me as those single-use vapes with screens, except you can't harvest the battery out of this one.

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Post by zucked »

Daneel_ wrote: post #48
nerdsniper wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article says the battery lasts for years. Is that a misleading claim? Edit FTA: > How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage.

It says two years of average use. “Two” is not “years” in my opinion. “Years” implies at least 3-5.

Years is literally just the plural of a single year. Ergo, years feels like the appropriate word here. What are you suggesting they phase it as instead?

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Post by embedding-shape »

ipsum2 wrote: post #47

12-15 hours of recording is maybe 2 weeks usage for heavy users. It would've been perfect if it could connect to computers and had a rechargeable battery. Oh well, hope someone else takes inspiration and makes the same thing but can recharge.

> It would've been perfect if it could connect to computers

If their goal truly is "New Pebble", then surely something that could connect to a phone could connect to a computer, granted you have the available radios connected to your computer. Seems to be BT in this case.

> and had a rechargeable battery

Yeah, seems like a weird thing to do, but I guess trying to solve this would make the device a lot harder. Hoping at least there will be a DIY route to replace the batteries, I don't have the will to be sending back an electrical device every second month because the battery died, and then waiting for a new device to arrive in the mail.

Edit: I was just about to ask if you think they'll send the replacement device before you've sent in the one that had the expired battery, but now I realize it isn't even clear if they expect us to buy a brand new device when the battery runs out, or if they provide a replacement? The former would be an absolutely bananas proposition.

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Post by myaccountonhn »

pants2 wrote: post #53
tw04 wrote: post #4

Not sure how I feel about it being a throwaway device for $100. I get they say you can send it back to be recycled, but this feels like you’re just proactively creating e-waste. Not even an attempt to make a replaceable or chargeable battery? Also they point out oura rings need to be charged every few days, but that’s because they’re constantly chewing through battery monitoring your health stats. I’m willing to bet…

The ring weighs approximately 1/1000th what a MacBook pro does. If it really lasts for years it's a tiny, tiny amount of e-waste.

Every company should be responsible for the lifecycle of their product, big or small. You can't just point fingers at others.

How much of it is even recyclable?

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Post by Mistletoe »

agildehaus wrote: post #13

> since it’s always with you Isn't my watch always with me? Why not use that instead of have some new device?

More importantly your phone and notes app is always with you and you can type your thought into it without disturbing people and looking like a schizophrenic Green Lantern.

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Post by stronglikedan »

layer8 wrote: post #55
joombaga wrote: post #43

My first concern is that this looks very difficult to remove if the battery begins to swell, as silver-oxide batteries are wont to do. Perhaps that's less likely with single use batteries.

Should be relatively straightforward to remove with a small wire cutter.

just like with the samsung rings, oh wait...
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