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Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by embedding-shape »

fastball wrote: post #49
whimsicalism wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fine, but I don't think you should call it open source or call it MIT or even 'modified MIT.' Call it Mistral license or something along those lines

imo this is a hill people need to stop dying on. Open source means "I can see the source" to most of the world. Wishing it meant "very permissively licensed" to everyone is a lost cause. And honestly it wasn't a good hill to begin with: if what you are talking about is the license, call it "open license". The source code is out in the open, so it is "open source". This is why the purists have lost ground to practical…

> imo this is a hill people need to stop dying on.

As someone who was born and raised on FOSS, and still mostly employed to work on FOSS, I disagree.

Open source is what it is today because it's built by people with a spine who stand tall for their ideals even if it means less money, less industry recognition, lots of unglorious work and lots of other negatives.

It's not purist to believe that what built open source so far should remain open source, and not wanting to dilute that ecosystem with things that aren't open source, yet call themselves open source.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by qwertox »

Let's see which company becomes the first to sell "coding appliances": hardware with a model good enough for normal coding.

If Mistral is so permissive they could be the first ones, provided that hardware is then fast/cheap/efficient enough to create a small box that can be placed in an office.

Maybe in 5 years.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by SyneRyder »

I was briefly excited when Mistral Vibe launched and mentions "0 MCP Servers" in its startup screen... but I can't find how to configure any MCP servers. It doesn't respond to the /mcp command, and asking Devstral 2 for help, it thinks MCP is "Model Context Preservation". I'd really like to be able to run my local MCP tools that I wrote in Golang.

I'm team Anthropic with Claude Max & Claude Code, but I'm still excited to see Mistral trying this. Mistral has occasionally saved the day for me when Claude refused an innocuous request, and it's good to have alternatives... even if Mistral / Devstral seems to be far behind the quality of Claude.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by chrsw »

embedding-shape wrote: post #4

Look interesting, eager to play around with it! Devstral was a neat model when it released and one of the better ones to run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this, so gonna be interesting to see if Devstral 2 can replace it. I'm a bit saddened by the name of the CLI tool, which to me implies the intended usage. "Vibe-coding" is a fun exercise to realize where models go wrong, but for…

> run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this

What kind of hardware do you have to be able to run a performant GPT-OSS-120b locally?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by baq »

simonw wrote: post #33

llm install llm-mistral llm mistral refresh llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D... Pretty good for a 123B model! (That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429 )

but can it recreate the spacejam 1996 website? https://www.spacejam.com/1996/jam.html

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by JimDabell »

fastball wrote: post #51
JimDabell wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are claiming something is open-source when it isn’t. Regardless of whether you think the deviation from open-source is a good thing or not, you should still be in favour of honesty.

*according to your definition of open-source

No, according to the commonly accepted definition of open-source.

Whenever anybody tries to claim that a non-commercial licenses is open-source, it always gets complaints that it is not open-source. This particular word hasn’t been watered down by misuse like so many others.

There is no commonly-accepted definition of open-source that allows commercial restrictions. You do not get to make up your own meaning for words that differs from how other people use it. Open-source does not have commercial restrictions by definition.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by princehonest »

Let's say you had a hardware budget of $5,000. What machine would you buy or build to run Devstral Small 2? The HuggingFace page claims it can run on a Mac with 32 GB of memory or an RTX 4090. What kind of tokens per second would you get on each? What about DGX Spark? What about RTX 5090 or Pro series? What about external GPUs on Oculink with a mini PC?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by brazukadev »

andai wrote: post #40
isodev wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re letting Claude write code you’re vibe coding

So people have different definitions of the word, but originally Vibe Coding meant "don't even look at the code". If you're actually making sure it's legit, it's not vibe coding anymore. It's just... Backseat Coding? ;) There's a level below that I call Power Coding (like power armor) where you're using a very fast model interactively to make many very small edits. So you're still doing the conceptual work of program…

> If you're actually making sure it's legit, it's not vibe coding anymore.

sorry to disappoint you but that is also been considered vibecoding. It is just not pejorative.

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